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  • XxCALIBERxX's Avatar
    Infantryman
    • Jun 2009
    • 470

    Clay Carmines Helmet in... CLAY. The begginning of something awesome.

    #1
    So, i've been spending some time roughing out the size and proportions of the Clay Carmine helmet. Which has a minute amount of references, but I'l survive. What you are about to see is very very rough. No detailing done yet and half the back of the head missing (ran out of clay). The eyes and that area still need a lot of work before i start doing any proper detailing.

    Come with me and join me on this journey! . AND TELL ME WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED! .











    It still looks lopsided and unsymmetrical. But its getting closer and closer to the fun part! .

    Thanks for having a look guys.

    Cheers, Dave.

  • SENTI3NT6's Avatar
    Infantryman
    • Oct 2010
    • 191

    #2
    Looks awesome so far. You planning on completing it for the release?

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    • TheBearMan's Avatar
      Infantryman
      • Oct 2010
      • 240

      #3
      WOW.

      looking amazing so far man, i can't wait to see more progress on this! I will have to keep an eye on this one.

      keep up the good work!

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      • XxCALIBERxX's Avatar
        Infantryman
        • Jun 2009
        • 470

        #4
        Thanks guys! And yeah, fingers crossed for the release! .

        I've order another 10 lbs of clay, so that should be in by Tuesday. . While I'm waiting for that though I'll get some of the detailing at the front done. .

        Cheer fellas!

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        • thorn696's Avatar
          Infantryman
          • Jul 2010
          • 2812

          #5
          Besides what You already said was wrong, I would have to say it looks very good. Are you going to use a a one sided card stock cut out to help make it symmetrical or are you going to free hand the whole thing.

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          • XxCALIBERxX's Avatar
            Infantryman
            • Jun 2009
            • 470

            #6
            Thanks man! . Um, I'm not sure, I might free hand it until i get to something that I just can't get right (which will happen eventually i bet). At the moment though i am using callipers when i need the measurements right and various other tool that i have bought. Anyone looking to get into this sort of thing, the right tools make life that much easier! . Thats what else I was going to say! Personally i think it looks too big, but I'm not sure on that point yet, I'm thinking I will finish every piece of it roughly, see what the size and scale looks like and the shave what i need to off, if i need to.

            Haha, thanks guys!
            Last edited by XxCALIBERxX; 07-23-2011, 07:42 AM.

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            • golem95's Avatar
              Infantryman
              • Sep 2009
              • 447

              #7
              ahhh dam... youve beaten me to it! Great work so far :P I find it so hard to get symmetry on even the smallest of clay sculpts so kudos to you for getting it this far! The top right of the dome in the picture is higher it seems that the top left, just incase you hadnt spotted it yet

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              • ShadoKat's Avatar
                Infantryman
                • Mar 2009
                • 303

                #8
                Awesome! I love seeing sculpted projects, and yours is starting out very nicely! Yeah, symmetry can be a pain... I actually had to build a custom measuring device to help me out with it (which works beautifully, but is hard to calibrate). Can you please briefly describe how you do it with calipers? I've never been able to figure that out, and the closest thing I've ever seen/heard/read to a description of the process is, "just use calipers."

                As for what needs to be fixed, the first thing i notice is in this pic...



                The top piece is curved around on the right side, and more or less straight on the left. Also, the bottom slopes upward from left to right. Also, like golem95 said, the dome is a bit crooked on top. That's it for now, good luck, and happy sculpting!
                Last edited by ShadoKat; 07-23-2011, 03:30 PM.

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                • XxCALIBERxX's Avatar
                  Infantryman
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 470

                  #9
                  @golem95

                  Thanks man! I reckon symmetry is the main drawback with doing clay sculpts, I guess with pepakura everything is already proportional but the clay stuff you need to labour through it to get it right. . ITs a rewarding process though. I just can't wait to detail it. .

                  Thanks for spotting that! The piece that runs down the middle is out too, its been a real pain in the arse to get right... I'll get it eventually though. .

                  @ Shadowkat

                  First of all, thanks man! The callipers I've been using just to get a piece on one side the same length/width as that piece on the other side. But I've been thinking recently how it would be easier to do. I started off building up one side, gettin that one side more or less proportionally correct, I then used the callipers to i guess reflect that sculpt from one side to the other. Which gave me a roughly symmetrical look, now it will just be a tonne of shaving little pieces of and gradually chipping away at it until it is perfect. .

                  Thanks for the critique! I'll jump on those spots straight away.

                  Cheers guys and thanks for the positive input! .

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                  • golem95's Avatar
                    Infantryman
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 447

                    #10
                    yeah pepakura helps with symmetry and proportion, which is why i love insane trooper's clay pepakura method so much. Just like shadowkat, i too love clay sculpts. With a good base they have amazing potential for detail and just... AWESOMENESS :P anyways good luck! ill be watching this and ill try to spot any more symmetry problems in the future too
                    Last edited by golem95; 07-23-2011, 08:00 PM. Reason: typo

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                    • Toacrabman's Avatar
                      Infantryman
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 1254

                      #11
                      Originally posted by golem95 View Post
                      yeah pepakura helps with symmetry and proportion, which is why i love insane trooper's clay pepakura method so much. Just like shadowkat, i too love clay sculpts. With a good base they have amazing potential for detail and just... AWESOMENESS :P anyways good luck! ill be watching this and ill try to spot any more symmetry problems in the future too
                      Well of course you like clay, Golems are made of clay.

                      Im sorry if that was cheesy, I kinda just had too XD

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                      • XxCALIBERxX's Avatar
                        Infantryman
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 470

                        #12
                        *facepalm. It wasn't that bad... .

                        Haha. Anyway, clay should be in tomorrow or the day after, when it comes in, work will continue. .

                        Cheers, Dave.

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                        • golem95's Avatar
                          Infantryman
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 447

                          #13
                          what clay do you use? Im going with insane's pepakura clay method but i was wondering if you too use nsp chavant and what hardness if you use it

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                          • XxCALIBERxX's Avatar
                            Infantryman
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 470

                            #14
                            NSP Medium Tan, slap it in the oven for a while and its beautiful to work with, then once its cooled down extremely easy to carve, wonderful stuff. . What is this Pepakure Clay method you speak of? I think a link is in order. .

                            Cheers, Dave.

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                            • golem95's Avatar
                              Infantryman
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 447

                              #15
                              Originally posted by XxCALIBERxX View Post
                              NSP Medium Tan, slap it in the oven for a while and its beautiful to work with, then once its cooled down extremely easy to carve, wonderful stuff. . What is this Pepakure Clay method you speak of? I think a link is in order. .

                              Cheers, Dave.
                              DOUBLE WHAMMY!
                              http://www.405th.com/showthread.php/...Six-Helmet-Wip
                              http://www.405th.com/showthread.php/...r-s-ODST-Build
                              Ive bought about 14 pounds of clay to test out insane's method :P
                              just outta curiosity how do you smooth our your clay?

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