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    Jul 10, 2015, 3:19 PM - The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #1

    Good Afternoon or Morning or Night 405th.

    I have stepped away from armor building for a while now, (reason below).

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    But now that I have completed that project, I turned my attention back to building Halo armor. I have next to no skill pepping and bondoing (despite many attempts).
    I found foam also a little too complex for my hand-eye coordination. I admire all of you who are capable of working in those materials and you'll never hear me knock anybody who does.

    So, what to do?

    My answer: 3D printing.

    Now I know its maybe not a good idea, but I will attempt an entire suit of MKVI Halo armor (abandoning my previous build, obviously) using my newly-purchased 3D printer.

    I at this point would now like to thank KingRahl for his EXCELLENT Youtube tutorials on 3D modeling for 3d printing, FlyingSquirrel, Robogenesis, and anyone who has modeled/unfolded for the 405th Archive.
    I do NOT take credit for the pep models I started with, and won't try and do so.

    If anyone wants a step-by-step for I arrived at these models, (I altered KingRahls method slightly), I will gladly write a short tutorial.

    Here are some screencaps of my models so far:

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    Chest piece. Most definitely the largest piece and the one that will require the most "chunking" into my build volume. (8" by 8" by 8")

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    The boot required the least amount of alteration, thankfully.

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    The forearm has some odd curves to it and I will tinker with it some more before printing.

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    I'm rather proud of how the circular indents turned out.

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    Now the shin looks stretched in the z axis, that is intentional. Being 6' 2", I found that when scaling the MKVI armor for myself, it made the shins almost comically wide.
    So I stretched it ever so much so that it won't look like clown pants.

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    The shoulder also required little alteration, it's mostly the bicep plate that needed the most done to it.

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    The helmet is what I started with first, and took the longest to finish. I included two views so that the back is shown.
    I like the look I arrived at, and comparing to ref pictures I came rather close. I did choose to not model the visor, and it didn't adversely affect the first print like I dreaded it would.

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    It took 3 tries to get started, but I had to be sure that the bed leveling was perfect, I had some issues where the nozzle was touching the glass.
    I set it to the thinnest layering my printer can do (.01mm), and while visible the layering is BARELY detectable to touch. It took 35 hours, but patience is key with this method.
    Once I can afford more filament, I'll keep plugging along.

    Thanks for looking!
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  3. 405th Pacific Regiment Member peterthethinker's Avatar
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    Jul 11, 2015, 12:30 AM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #2

    iam more then half done with a full H4 armor( King rahl file) . its SO slow .
    But like you allready had a printer for my biz and Ive got NO pep skills.

    what printer did you get?
    Peter
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    Jul 11, 2015, 1:00 AM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #3

    Originally Posted by peterthethinker View Post
    iam more then half done with a full H4 armor( King rahl file) . its SO slow .
    But like you allready had a printer for my biz and Ive got NO pep skills.

    what printer did you get?
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    I actually purchased the printer specifically for this project, after saving for months. I have a what could be considered a "low end" or "cheap ass" printer,
    I have the Davinci 1.0. I am actually happy with it. The slicing software is basic, but I can make whatever changes I want in Blender than re-export. It's worked so far anyway.
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    Jul 11, 2015, 1:31 AM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #4

    Sweet !
    I never knew of the Davinci! under 500 bucks. I may pick one up as bestbuy has them .... I kinda want a spare to my flashforge and at under 500 its less of a shock then another 1250 for mine ,,
    Granted its all cheap on the whole
    Up the street from me is 3D systems .
    They make stuff that is in the 500 Grand range that can do a entire chest armor in one go.
    * drools*

    Peter
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    Jul 11, 2015, 8:16 AM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #5

    Originally Posted by peterthethinker View Post
    Sweet !
    I never knew of the Davinci! under 500 bucks. I may pick one up as bestbuy has them .... I kinda want a spare to my flashforge and at under 500 its less of a shock then another 1250 for mine ,,
    Granted its all cheap on the whole
    Up the street from me is 3D systems .
    They make stuff that is in the 500 Grand range that can do a entire chest armor in one go.
    * drools*

    Peter
    Yeah I'm of limited means so this was the way to go for me.

    I am rather proud; modeled the cheek detail from scratch on my own.

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    It sagged during printing unfortunately (forgot to add supports, it was 2 AM afterall).

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    But the concept is sound, I'll have to reprint it later today if I don't run out of filament.
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    Aug 25, 2015, 9:12 PM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #6

    Hey! Any updates/progress on this build lately? It looks great so far, keep up the good work! I'm very curious to see how it turns out
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    Oct 25, 2015, 10:38 PM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #7

    Was wondering if any one was familar with DazStudio? I've just loaded the halo5 undersuit obj. file. I got the diffuse map, and the normal map applied, but I'm not sure where to apply the control map. Is there another name for a control map?

    SORRY, NOT SURE HOW I MANAGED TO POST THIS QUESTION HERE. PLEASE DISREGARD THIS POST.
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    Oct 28, 2015, 5:31 AM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #8

    I would love a 3d printer but can't throw the money at it right now. I will be following your build with interest. Keep us posted :-)
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    Nov 1, 2015, 12:44 AM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #9

    I took a break to print some swords, but I'm back to this project now, and will probably be switching from Halo 3 to 4,
    because my 3 files have caused WAY too many issues to get into. I'll have some progress pics up in a few days I promise you guys that.
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    Nov 3, 2015, 7:25 PM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #10

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    Ok so, Here is progress on the helmet, finally. I had to re-wire the x-axis motor on my printer to fix an ongoing stepping issue (stepping is where the motor will not carry out a move command, and instead sit and clack, then think its moved. It's a bad thing), but now I'm printing flawlessly. My spool is about to run out so once I get paid again I can order some more. Red filament smells the least, plus it'll be primed over/glaze puttied/sanded a whole bunch anyway before painting. I'm leaning towards a green/brown tigerstripe pattern to somewhat emulate the modern-day Marine green cammies, but that's also months away before a final color has to be chosen. I appreciate the support, and look forward to more progress!
  12. Nov 3, 2015, 7:31 PM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #11

    Lookin good there
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    Nov 6, 2015, 7:27 PM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #12

    So should have the helmet done this weekend-my filament arrived 2 days early!

    But I was considering how best to do padding for the inside this go-round, and rather than fashion padding on my own,
    I decided to raid Goodwill and found one of these:

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    I had to cut it down a lot to get it to fit, but my end result was thus:

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    I did have to add a thinner square of black foam at the back, to minimize wiggle and improve comfort.
    I added a peg in the top of the helmet for the hole in the padding to fit onto, to keep everything aligned.
    I should have the last 2 pieces printed by tomorrow night and the helmet will be ready for priming/filling of seams.
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    Nov 6, 2015, 7:31 PM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #13

    THAT is brilliant !!

    heck it has a chin strap too!
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    Nov 6, 2015, 7:35 PM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #14

    Originally Posted by peterthethinker View Post
    THAT is brilliant !!

    heck it has a chin strap too!
    Ironically I had to cut off the chin strap part to get it to fit. It's actually so snug once it's glued
    in I may not even bother with a chin buckle, since it's already somewhat a squeeze to get my dome into it already!
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    Nov 7, 2015, 8:51 AM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #15

    So for the shoulders, I don't want to lock myself into 1 design.
    I'll have the MC shoulders as the default of course, but I'm going to make them able to be swapped out.

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    This way I can print a helmet variety, and various shoulders and change them as the mood strikes me.
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    Nov 7, 2015, 9:02 PM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #16

    Helmet done, now on to the forearms!

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    Nov 8, 2015, 8:43 PM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #17

    I've got the helmet primed, puttied, sanded, and a black base coat put on. I'd post a pic but it's outside drying and giving off some serious fumes. I did black first, then I'll mask off what I want to stay black when I get ready to do the color coat. Since I have yet to make a final decision on a color coat, it'll be a while before that step.

    I did finish printing the wrist half of the left forearm:

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    Nov 9, 2015, 3:58 PM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #18

    So, this happened:

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    Which makes about 8 hours of printing and 40 or meters of filament down the drain.
    This is the downside to 3D printing, is sometimes prints can fail for absolutely no reason.
    It is absolutely not a "magic wand" for making armor.

    But I did get the helmet dried out overnight with the primer and black base coat:

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    The light details and back fan-looking thing will remain black along with the masked-off areas once I decide on a color for the suit.
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    Nov 9, 2015, 4:22 PM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #19

    Originally Posted by hobbitdude13 View Post
    So, this happened:

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    Which makes about 8 hours of printing and 40 or meters of filament down the drain.
    This is the downside to 3D printing, is sometimes prints can fail for absolutely no reason.
    It is absolutely not a "magic wand" for making armor.
    Owtch! Thats never fun.......... half the battle is finding out why things fail.
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    Nov 9, 2015, 4:34 PM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #20

    Originally Posted by hobbitdude13 View Post
    So, this happened:

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    Which makes about 8 hours of printing and 40 or meters of filament down the drain.
    This is the downside to 3D printing, is sometimes prints can fail for absolutely no reason.
    It is absolutely not a "magic wand" for making armor.
    Wow that sucks! Never knew this could happen with a 3d printer.
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    Nov 9, 2015, 5:43 PM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #21

    Peter my theory (since I was at work when it failed), is that it simply got unbalanced and fell over and off the print bed. With this piece I'll have to use the full auto support function instead of the custom supports I used.

    Oh yeah Critchley this can easily happen. Sometimes it's a print falling over, sometimes the motor steps over and starts laying down plastic in empty space.
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    Nov 10, 2015, 2:35 PM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #22

    Originally Posted by hobbitdude13 View Post
    Good Afternoon or Morning or Night 405th.

    I have stepped away from armor building for a while now, (reason below).

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    I love how no one even mentions the TARDIS. Nicely done with that, sir! (I'm a huge Doctor Who fan). The armor's looking spectacular as well!
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    Nov 12, 2015, 8:14 PM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #23

    So I have to hold off on more plastic for the moment, but I have got these done up:

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    All the finger plates, and the main hand plates. I had to reprint the hand plates and scale them up 125% because the original sizing was too small.

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    Seen here.

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    I bought a face shield from work, I'm going to use this for the helmet visor.
    I like it because its curved along two axes, and cheap (employee discount, anyway).

    Does anyone have suggestions for translucent paint?

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    It came with the regular head mount, briefly considered making it the helmet support system.
    But I've already put the work into making the karate helmet work, anyway.
    I'll be cutting/fitting the visor tomorrow most likely.
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    Nov 13, 2015, 11:56 AM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #24

    The face shield look like one I just saw at Harbor Freight for $15. My friend used to tint his glasses himself a long time ago. He used to dip the lenses in to heated food coloring. I could be wrong but I'll ask him and get back to you. Sweet build so far. Wish i could make mine as clean as you.
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    Nov 13, 2015, 3:17 PM - Re: The Great Experiment-Or, How To Build Armor Without Really Trying...(Much) #25

    Originally Posted by Dirtdives View Post
    The face shield look like one I just saw at Harbor Freight for $15. My friend used to tint his glasses himself a long time ago. He used to dip the lenses in to heated food coloring. I could be wrong but I'll ask him and get back to you. .
    Thanks! keep me posted.

    Got the visor installed last night, it was slow going but I had enough tools on hand to get it done.

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