Discussion in 'New Recruits' started by C8lyn, Mar 11, 2014.

  1. C8lyn


    Hello everybody!

    I'm new here and im looking forward to getting to know you!

    I've often thought that having a suit of armour would be fun and for a long time I thought that I would have to buy one. Little did I know, there was this marvelous place with all the information and advice I need to make one of my own without breaking the bank. I've always loved arts and craft too so I think im going to have a lot of fun doing it!

    I am very indecisive when it comes to my armour in the games and I change it often, so I decided for my project that I would save myself the headaches and go for the Chief's armour from Halo 4. I can always make more later! The biggest dilemma will be picking colours!

    After seeking advice from a friend who has tried a bit of this before, I am starting with the legs and leaving the more complicated pieces for later. Currently cutting out the pieces for a shin and I'll probably have it assembled in a day. Will see how the scale is and go from there!

    Any advice is appreciated :D
  2. Darthdrow

    Darthdrow New Member

    Welcome and get ready for a fun experience. I recently started myself and just finished pepping my helmet. Word of advise, when you get to the helmet, I suggest building from the top down. I learned this the hard way :D. Good luck.
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  3. Flynney

    Flynney New Member

    As Darthdrow said its really fun to get into, there have been times where I've worked throughout the night, just remember when you tell yourself just one more piece it nearly never works out that way :p

    Foam is probably the cheaper option compared to pepakura/resin methods, but it all depends what you want to do. I personally pep/resin helmets and the rest is done in foam.

    Good luck and looking forward to see what comes of this! :)
  4. C8lyn


    One more piece is never enough. lol. I'm finding it quite relaxing, until i get to the little tiny fiddly bits. Need to find some tweezers for clamping.

    Makes sense with the helmet. I can imagine it would be tricky to put the top pieces together and have nothing to grab onto :p
  5. C8lyn


    My first piece was completely the wrong size. But I've tried another and it's turned out really well.


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  6. HogSmith

    HogSmith New Member

    That is one nice looking gauntlet you've got there! I can't offer much advice in this area but that sure looks good :)
  7. Marves2142


    thats some awesome pep work :D very clean, i could probably help find supplies in QLD spent a few years searching for it all myself :p if you have any questions just shoot us a pm
  8. C8lyn


    Progress so far that I've managed to scale properly.

    Gauntlet, thigh, and bicep.


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  9. soucekaboose

    soucekaboose New Member

    IMO for the cleanest pep I pre-line each page prior to x-acto'ing it out. blue for mountain fold and red for valley. I find using this method the folds are PER-R-R-R-fect and I don't even use a ruler/straight edge for folding unless there are multiple little edges in one location as there often are on high def pieces. Otherwise, I use only my fingers.

    Also, another pepping trick I've discovered on my own (possibly well known already) is while you're hot gluing start on the middle tab and make sure the numbers line up perfectly, and with the tabs immediately to it's left and right slipped up on the non-glue side; then glue each progressive tab, fidget around with it quickly and flip the next tab up to the non-glue side so the 'V' between each tab will line up each number perfectly.
    That explanation is maybe slightly convoluted...it's hard to explain, but i find doing it that way every fold, corner and edge lines up perfectly.
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  10. Demogorgon


    I actually use this method when I pep haha. It really does align the edges of the two pieces quite precisely, although I don't use edge IDs.

    Your peps look very nice and clean which will help tremendously down the road. Good luck on your build!
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  11. steveo0521


    That is some great looking pep work!
  12. C8lyn


    I haven't been here long and I've been MIA already!

    Haven't done too much since my last post. Completed a shoulder plate. I've cut my other bicep and thigh and am folding at the moment.
    Been going through a bit of crap, trying to find a job and a damn emotional crisis because im a crazy person.
    Will put up a picture soon of all my completed pieces together.

    Im also in the middle of making a magikarp cosplay outfit for a birthday party. Har har. I will post a picture of that when it's done too.
  13. AugmentedHuman013

    AugmentedHuman013 RMO 405th Regiment Officer

    LOL it happens to all of us. Life gets in the way of fun all the time. Keep it up


    Im loving your pep job:) Just so you know, the gauntlet you peped is the one from the preview of the game, not the final model. I ran into this problem in my build, and i decided that i was going to start over with the new one. :( Im trying to go for 100% game accurate(not exactly possible because the reference pics are all different:angry. But i wish you luck with your build, ope it goes well:)
  15. C8lyn


    Some pics of my pepped shin piece (the knee part is sitting inside)
    And all pieces so far

    ....and yes.. those are my ponies on the shelf above.

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  16. C8lyn


    Okie Dokie. So I've completed pepping the opposite sides of most of the pieces plus one boot. I have the other boot cut, but not folded yet.
    I messed up the scaling on my opposite gauntlet so I have to redo that one.
    Really looking forward to getting started on the chest on helmet soon. Just printed the cod piece and butt piece and I'm going shopping today to see what kind of resi, fiberglass and bondo supplies are around here.
    There's so many great tutorials on youtube, I just hope it's as simple as it looks!


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  17. blackluc

    blackluc New Member

    Your peping skills are really good! nice and clean!
  18. Lonewolf260


    wish i could do pepakura, i barely have patience for carving foam guns! looks good:)

  19. Jimmy Da Moose

    Jimmy Da Moose

    Another fun trick I learned when pepping my armor:

    When using a model that hasn't been pre-smoothed, especially one that's very angular, you can eliminate a lot of the unnecessary folds before you even print!

    Open Pep Designer (the option isn't in Viewer), open your model, then go to 'Settings' -> 'Other Settings'. In the 'Line Styles' tab adjust the 'Threshold' to something like 160 - 165 degrees. You can even go a little lower if you have to.

    This will get rid of lines that are between that number and 180, making your model instantly smoother! Also keep in mind that any tabs that land on one of these lines, or any tab that continues a flat surface doesn't need to be folded. That sounds like silly advice, but if you put that fold there, it will always end up leaving a small crease, and lead to a lot more work to make it a perfectly smooth surface.

    Alternatively, if you don't want to pre-smooth it in Designer, you can always just pay attention to the 3D model and see where those lines are, and just skip folding them.

    Trust me, this saves you a lot of headache later when trying to finish you armor. I didn't find this out until I was nearly done with my build. My helmet has a few extra pounds of Bondo on it from getting rid of the extra folds.

    Hope this helps! Your pep work already looks really clean, keep it up!
  20. C8lyn


    Thanks for the tip :)
    I probably won't go to the lengths of adjusting the pep files. As I've gone along I've adjusted my folding method so it's a softer edge by just laying lining up the fold line on top of a ruler and apply pressure along the edge with a folding tool so the crease is there but it's still fairly rigid.. if that makes any sense.. Might have to take a picture. Then i just fold it over harder when it needs to be a sharper/deeper edge.

    I've left the larger pieces like the torso and helmet until last so I could be better at it by the time I got to them. I'll be pro by that stage ;)
  21. MJPvt Grif

    MJPvt Grif

    Looks great so far. It's nice so see someone taking there time on the early steps. I will most definitely be keeping my eye on this.
  22. Carpathia


    A tip I can offer is to stop pepping (for now). Your pepping skills are great, but I would advise to stop for a while and at least get a few coats of resin on what you have done before moving on to pepping another piece. If you let a raw pep lay around for too long, it will start to sag/warp a bit (experience). That's just the nature of paper; time mixed with temperature changes, humidity, etc. can expand/contract the paper, leaving you a warped piece. If you get a coat or two of resin on the exterior, they'll be in better shape to be left alone while you start building more pieces. I generally build one or two pieces at a time, and follow through until it's at least got a coat of primer before moving onto another piece.

    Very good job so far! Keep it up.
  23. C8lyn


    I've placed all the pieces up on shelves so they aren't laying on their sides. The forearms are mounted on top of cups so they are kept open/round all the time. Although I completely understand where your advice is coming from, and it's appreciated, I would much rather have all the pepping done before I start on resin. This way, I can work on multiple pieces at a time while I wait for others to cure :)
    Little bit of resin on one piece, move on to the next, and so forth. Spreading one mix of resin across a few pieces at a time.
  24. Chernobyl


    How fast your Pepped models deteriorate depends on the conditions you leave them in and for how long - I wouldn't advise leaving them over the winter (I have a friend in Sydney who reports temperatures of roughly 10C), but if it's warm and you're working at a good pace, you should be able to get them all stabilised with resin before the heat and humidity begin to affect them.

    Good luck with the resin stage, Spartan.
  25. C8lyn



    My hands are going to hate me over the next however-long-it-will-take to cut and fold all 33 pages of my chest piece.


    PS : Cookies!

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