Fiberglassing Outside Of Helmet

[ChuKoNu]

Hello

I have recently joined the 405th and I must say I like it very much. I have also read many of your tutorials and found them very helpfull, however I have found two things that conflict each other - some people say to put fiberglass on the outside of their piece and others do not. The people who say that you are not supposed to layer fiberglass on the outside claim that it is a byotch to sand. Personally I do not mind sanding.

Could you please clear this up?
chukonu

 

[LastSpartan]

If you never worked with Fiberglass, put it inside. Don't forget to put Resin outside and inside.

CPU64 put his fiberglass outside because his helmet was made out of mat board and because he has the skills to do so.

Putting figerglass outside also erase your details if not use the right way.

 

[ChuKoNu]

If you never worked with Fiberglass, put it inside. Don't forget to put Resin outside and inside.

CPU64 put his fiberglass outside because his helmet was made out of mat board and because he has the skills to do so.

Putting figerglass outside also erase your details if not use the right way.

Ok thanks man.

 

[FinnishSpartan]

No!!! no no no no no no no no no no no no no no..!
You do not fiberglass the outside, especially with th HD models, it will lose up all of the detail..
and that's not good? I have only seen 2 people fiberglassing the outside, Chris bryan (he is excellent at it.. so i wouldnt recomend going his way) And someone else with a low detail halo 2 helmet.
With the halo 2 helmet it technically works since it doesn't really have any detail that you could lose.

But i think people don't argue about fiberglassing the outside, usually people argue about "resining" the outside.
Some people fiberglass inside 1st, then resin outside, the most common way though, is by using resin on the outside 1st and then using fiberglass on the inside..

Then..

Bondo,
Sand,
Bondo,
Bondo,
Sand,
Bondo,
Bondo,
Sand,
Bondo.......
(you get the point)


-Finish

 

[LastSpartan]

Your welcome.

And welcome here

 

[S1l3nt V1p3r]

Resin is the LIQUID you apply inside and outside the helmet.
Fiberglass is the DRY STUFF that you put inside the helmet, and soak that fiberglass with the RESIN.

 

[Overlord Ian]

Hello

I have recently joined the 405th and I must say I like it very much. I have also read many of your tutorials and found them very helpfull, however I have found two things that conflict each other - some people say to put fiberglass on the outside of their piece and others do not. The people who say that you are not supposed to layer fiberglass on the outside claim that it is a byotch to sand. Personally I do not mind sanding.

Could you please clear this up?
chukonu

If you want my advice, i would say:
1. resin the outside
2. put your first layer of fiberglass on the insite, use fiberglass woven cloth, its much better than matte
3. continue layering the inside until you think it is strong enough
sand the outside, you may need to sand through some of the paper to get it rounded and smooth
4.Use bondo to smooth out the helmet.
5.There may be some defects in your bondo coat, so use spot putty to fill them.
6. you wont have read this in tutorials, but i use it all the time to strenthen my helmets, spray them with "plasti-dip" spray, it coats the helmet in rubber, so it you drop it, it will absorb the shock.
7.paint the helmet, use high quality paints so it wont rub off.
Hope this was helpful!
~Ian

 

[crackhead09]

i did a video tutorial just for this sort of question

 

[CPU64]

If you want to go with my method on the outside, you can do it to any flat section of the piece you're working on and that should be easy enough. You need to get a hang of how the cloth behaves when stretched over irregular shapes.

And do one section at a time. Some say that its a bit time consuming, but it only takes me about 10 minutes from applying resin, to trimming the excess with a razor. Saves sanding time.

There's a quick video on youtube under cpu64.

Like most probably said before, you only need resin on the outside, to get the shell stable enough to take the fiberglass you'll be using on the inside.

I glass both sides with one layer of cloth outside, and one layer of mesh on the inside.

 

[LastSpartan]

For CPU64's video ^^