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[Spartan 051]

I dont have to say much the title says every thing

And dual wielding m249 (didnt wants to start another topic)

It makes the smg look like small fries

 

[odst26]

I dont have to say much the title says every thing

dude i've seen this before and i can't believe that guy is ok! i guess he's got luck

 

[Adam]

next time, he's shooting from a bunker no doubt.

That's what shooting ranges are for... no rocks to ricochet off of.

 

[odst26]

at least he still has his ear

 

[Spartan 051]

im amazed that he didnt get killed or hurt really really badly

 

[Doom]

I remember seeing this video awhile back. The bullet ricochet off his target or whatever he was aiming at. It looks like the ear protection takes most of the blow though.

Bungie should give him Recon for shooting himself in the head with a .50cal Sniper .

-Doom

 

[odst26]

I remember seeing this video awhile back. The bullet ricochet off his target or whatever he was aiming at, it went straight up and came down. It ended up hitting his Ear Protection things.

Bungie should give him Recon for shooting himself in the head with a .50cal Sniper

-Doom

ha shot off of the mystery machine but it never came back

 

[Kratos Chaziyz]

next time, he's shooting from a bunker no doubt.

That's what shooting ranges are for... no rocks to ricochet off of.

LOL! dude, he didn't hit a rock! I shoot competitively, and I can tell you now, not only did he not hit a rock, he should be DEAD! Heres a couple fun little facts for you guys. First, the .50 Cal. bullet, even going slowly, will gelatinize your head and organs if it travels within FIVE FRICKIN FEET of your body. Second, he was shooting at something we call a "gong", its a steel plate, about 1.5-2 feet thick in the shape of a frying pan. They will give you the worst ricochet's in the world though, I had a dude shooting at a gong a couple hundred yards to my left as I was traveling to the "pits" to pull targets for the next relay shooting, and the bullet he shot WHIZZED over my head, about 15 feet after striking the gong! If it had hit a rock, two things would have happened, (a. it would have ricocheted at a wierd angle, for the bullet to hit the ground PERFECTLY in line with his head, he had to be shooting at an object PERFECTLY flat and PERFECTLY angled at the shooter! (b. it would have sent bits of rock flying back WITH the bullet. thats just how the physics of big big bullets work.

And the dual wield, you can totally do that easily, I shoot the same caliber bullet on a 13 lb. rifle, I can do so with one hand, semi automatic. .223's don't give a ton of recoil (hint hint).

HAPPY HUNDREDTH POST CHUPA!

-Chupa

 

[Walter Spase]

First, the .50 Cal. bullet, even going slowly, will gelatinize your head and organs if it travels within FIVE FRICKIN FEET of your body.

Busted...

Complete Myth... one of my favorite though.

If a shock wave existed for a .50 Caliber rifle round it would exist for all projectiles of similar size and muzzle velocity. Fact, a 30-06 round has a diameter difference of only .2" inches yet has the same approximate muzzle velocity, yet no one is afraid of near miss from a dear rifle. A bullet penetrates and object and does horrific damage as it begins to tumble through your body as it penetrates flesh, bone, and muscle. Hence the small entrance wound and typically bigger exit wound.

Next time you have the opportunity to closely inspect a target at a gun range, you will notice the bullets leave holes the size of the bullet passing through the paper... If your shock wave existed and could cause significant damage, then one near miss shot would tear the paper.

True, a 50 caliber round does have a muzzle velocity more than speed of sound but trust the Engineer, .50 cal, like all other firearms, require you to strike your target with the round. Near misses, are still misses... you may scare a person once the realize what just wizzed by them... but thats all.

 

[DogWizard]

Busted...

Complete Myth... one of my favorite though.

QFT - If an engineer isn't enough then perhaps a fellow shooter and firearms instructor with over 20 years of practical experience could assist. There is no "gelatinizing effect" from a near miss from a .50 round - loud noise and air displacement - yes - but no 5 foot radius of death. You either hit the target or you don't. If you do - it's catastrophic, if you don't - then you don't

Sure would be interesting to see though...

 

[Kratos Chaziyz]

Busted...

Complete Myth... one of my favorite though.

If a shock wave existed for a .50 Caliber rifle round it would exist for all projectiles of similar size and muzzle velocity. Fact, a 30-06 round has a diameter difference of only .2" inches yet has the same approximate muzzle velocity, yet no one is afraid of near miss from a dear rifle. A bullet penetrates and object and does horrific damage as it begins to tumble through your body as it penetrates flesh, bone, and muscle. Hence the small entrance wound and typically bigger exit wound.

Next time you have the opportunity to closely inspect a target at a gun range, you will notice the bullets leave holes the size of the bullet passing through the paper... If your shock wave existed and could cause significant damage, then one near miss shot would tear the paper.

True, a 50 caliber round does have a muzzle velocity more than speed of sound but trust the Engineer, .50 cal, like all other firearms, require you to strike your target with the round. Near misses, are still misses... you may scare a person once the realize what just wizzed by them... but thats all.

Buddy, Spase. I am not in ANY WAY trying to argue with you. I know a sniper who uses a .50 Cal. Rifle, he killed a guy doing this just shooting it a foot from his head. and I do see those paper targets a lot, more than most people will see in their whole lives. its not the speed of the bullet, nor the width. both are big factors, but the MOST differentiating factor is that those .50 cal's are a full 2.5 inches longer than the 30-06, but i do understand your thinking. I can't tell you how much I am trying not to make this an argument. and I believe the sniper was exaggerating when he said 5 feet, cuz his was a matter of inches (sniper duh) away. I also know that you are safe at SIX feet away, because when we pull targets (we sit in a line 6 feet beneath a target tied to a frame, when the bullet strikes, we pull the frame down, mark the shot, and send it up for the shooter to see) we are 6 feet beneath the .223, 30-06, AND .50 cal.'s going over our heads. you can FEEL the .50 going over, but not either the .223 or the 30-06/.308. whenever ANY high powered bullet (I.E. faster than the speed of sound) goes over head, it gives you the sonic boom of the bullet in an EXTREMELY loud snap. for most bullets, it remains just that....a snap. but you can physically FEEL it when the sonic boom of a .50 goes by SIX feet above your ever so sensitive dome.

Anyway, I am just relaying to you MY personal experiences with big bullets, and a snipers experience.

-Chupa

 

[wolf]

friggin crazy. and dumb for the dual SAW's

 

[Zaso117]

friggin crazy. and dumb for the dual SAW's

extremely stupid, but for an halo player such as myself... Bad@$$

 

[volkov]

Both are incredible, and while I have to agree that the shockwave thing is something I've never believed, I have heard that the rotary force can spread the bullet's width making it considerably larger so a perfect hit is not neccesary to do damage, but I'm not sure that's true (someone might have debunked that spreading out thing already, I didn't read every word, if so, I am sorry)

 

[rowan]

They were both really cool (if not a bit scary) I've herd so many myths and explanations for the area of effect a .50 cal round can do... never having shot one myself i have no idea what to believe. (i do have a dead round sitting on the top of my PC case though, i never new they were THAT big till i actually saw one )

As for the .223's, that was just cool!

 

[BlacRoseImmortal]

This sounds like a job for the Mythbusters!

Im gonna email Adam Savage right now......

EDIT: Email sent! lol.

 

[Toby]

it's not the speed of the bullet, nor the width. both are big factors, but the MOST differentiating factor is that those .50 cal's are a full 2.5 inches longer than the 30-06, but i do understand your thinking. I can't tell you how much I am trying not to make this an argument.

We don't need mythbusters , let's ask our friend physics. Physics says it's called kinetic energy and it's E = 0.5 * m * v², so obviously the biggest factor here is speed, then if the speed is the same it's mass (which is proportional to the length if the diameters and density are the same!).
I don't think the drag coefficient is going to be drastically different for longer bullets, i think the difference is that the longer the bullet, the more stable it's flightpath is and the faster/further it will go, but correct me if I'm wrong.

More kinetic energy = bigger sonic boom? I don't know. But I do know that air is a lame conductor for sound waves and i think i remember correctly that the projectile would have to have more drag/less aerodynamic shape to cause a shockwave, meaning they would loose too much energy and slow down real fast.

but you can physically FEEL it when the sonic boom of a .50 goes by SIX feet above your ever so sensitive dome.

i bet your right, but you can feel subwoofer/bass sounds and they won't kill you. sound waves don't have much energy (can't destroy stuff with speakers, unless you use them as clubs )

 

[BlacRoseImmortal]

Well I found this discussion goin on at the MythBusters forums and it might help you guys with your debate. The information there is pretty much the same as what you've all said already.

Just trying to be helpful, im not taking sides here

 

[Spartan 051]

Busted...

Complete Myth... one of my favorite though.

If a shock wave existed for a .50 Caliber rifle round it would exist for all projectiles of similar size and muzzle velocity. Fact, a 30-06 round has a diameter difference of only .2" inches yet has the same approximate muzzle velocity, yet no one is afraid of near miss from a dear rifle. A bullet penetrates and object and does horrific damage as it begins to tumble through your body as it penetrates flesh, bone, and muscle. Hence the small entrance wound and typically bigger exit wound.

Next time you have the opportunity to closely inspect a target at a gun range, you will notice the bullets leave holes the size of the bullet passing through the paper... If your shock wave existed and could cause significant damage, then one near miss shot would tear the paper.

True, a 50 caliber round does have a muzzle velocity more than speed of sound but trust the Engineer, .50 cal, like all other firearms, require you to strike your target with the round. Near misses, are still misses... you may scare a person once the realize what just wizzed by them... but thats all.

Should have known that some one from tejas would respond like that

I just want to know were the spent casing went with the dual wielding m249s? You never see them hit the ground

 

[CS SF]

I own a M107, I am Ex Military (US Army) 82nd 1st BM (White Falcons) I have combat experience, was planning on Going through Q Course. And getting my third Tab. Airborne, Ranger, Special Forces. I have taken the Us Army Advanced Marksmanship Course. (I.E. Sniper School) For one, like stated there is no 5ft kill radius around a .50 cal round. What a crock of $#!T. The M107 is a long range weapon so maybe next time that dumb ass will shoot targets at a farther distance. Minimum range should be 600-800m. I have used the M107 in combat and I can in fact tell you, If you miss..you miss. Unless you happen to graze the target, nothing will happen. There head will not "EXPLODE" There guts will not "TURN INTO MUSH" And five feet? Come on guys, Did you ever stop to consider how far 5Ft is?




PS. Shooting Targets and Shooting People are two different things.