i do want one, but thats no reason to be called a nub, I usually head toward microsoft products, but since the new main ipod has wifi and web browsing, I'd much rather have that as I'm not as big of a music junky as the people who buy the classics are. i was going to buy a zune2, but since I played with one and it has no web browsing, I decided, it's the same as the 80gig classic, but the ipod touch is a whole different class, whole multi touch interface>scroll wheel