See Through Spray??

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shadow74

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Im thinking about getting the legendary helmet and gutting it outt and make it as my helmet, but you cant see though the visor i know. I really like that visor and just want to ask if there is any type of thing that lets you see through plastic. like spray on stuff that lets you see though 1 way, you know what im talkin about. so anyone hear of anything like that before?
 

Motive8

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I was wondering the same thing.My visor will be clear acetate.I figurec i have 2 options 1-spray a light dusting of gold spray just to give it the gold shimmer.2-Use gold window tint film (nowhere local sells it that ive found yet)
 

madjon

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There is not a spray like this that i am aware of.

You maybe able to mix a 1:2 mix of gold paint and laquer to get the effect but i have no idea how this will come out. you may be left with a sparkely visor looking out of the non-gold bits. but thats only a guess.
 

AoBfrost

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There is a lquid, but I'm not sure of there being a spray, there is tinting liquid which they use in windows for cars when they actually tint the liquid glass with it and when it solidifies it is tinted, but for a spray, I'm not sure.

Try decal-fx.com

they use tinting film, they have some emtalic shiny colors you could use for a visor, I am not sure if they are see though, otherwise look at a craft or hobby store, they usually have see through tinting films
 

shadow74

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Hmm.. Well I wouldnt mind using a liquid and just paint it on the visor from the inside. But what if it has a horrid smell or something?
 

dwoo

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I have been working this myself.

First, the metallic tint film for car windows is probably the closest you can get to the real deal (not counting the motorcycle visor). But the tint film doesn't work well on compound curves (rounded in two directions like a bubble).

From what I can tell, the metallic tint on compound curves like security camera ceiling bubbles and sunglasses is done with some kind of gas deposit -- metallic particles dissolved in a gas stick to the surface.

I have seen transparent paints at the craft store that are used to make faux stained glass. These are clear enough to let light through but I don't know if they are clear enough to really see through and they are just colors not metallic.

I heard rumors of a liquid tint too but could never find it.

Here is the link to my post on another thread about how I would like to make a visor.

-dwoo
 
Well i know of an iron based paint that comes in many colors. its used for a tinting agent by local repair shops around here. you spray it on then use a magnent to line up the pigments to make it so you can see out but its reflective gold on the other side.
 

tsuyosa

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Hmm... the window tint method wouldn't work?

Have you actually *TRIED* it yet?

I'm going to be attempting this method over the weekend. Im going to cut a large sheet, *Much larger than the center piece of the visor* and place it over my clear visor. If it does wrinkle in one direction or another despite the amount of stretch I give it (not to mention on such a small space), i'm going to try and lightly heat the area with a heat gun, to hopefully achieve the desired affect.

Something I also heard when talking to the guys at a window tint shop, they said that the window tint wouldn't take well to plastics. Plastic gives off gas that when you place the tint on it and will bubble.

Thus, i'm using a piece of glass. I'll re-inforce the inside (in case it should ever shatter.... god forbid). But It will look right in the end.

I'm also going to try plastic anyway.... just to test the info.
 

dwoo

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Durlaburban - That spray on magnet stuff sounds perfect, will it work on thermoformed acrylic - plastic?

I am trying to form a plastic sheet to the shape made by the balloon in the pic below.
[attachment=677:balloon_visor_01.JPG]

tsuyosa - I have not tried it yet. if you are stretching the tint film I assume you are using the thicker peel and stick vinyl. I used some of that on the kid's windows of my vehicle. I have not seen the metallic type in this static cling variety.

I still want to try thermoforming the amber colored plastic sheet, just need to create a form to mold to...any suggestions?

Below is a Q/A from Gila tint film manufacturer. It kinda shoots down any idea I may have had of applying tint film to plastic but it also explains in part d. why the tint film won't work in my balloon formed visor concept.
<blockquote>Q. Can I put window film on plexiglass?

a. Plexiglass, acrylic, and lexan are three non-glass materials used to make skylights, sidelights on front doors, storm door panes, and garage door windows. The advantage of these "plastic? materials is that they are more impact-resistant than glass. They are often more durable in certain window locations than glass.

b. Window film adhesive is not designed for these "plastic" windows. Changes in temperature cause natural expansion and contraction of both plexiglass and window film. The plexiglass and the film expand and contract at different rates, which causes the film to buckle and lift off the glass.

c. If you want to reflect more heat, you may cut a piece of Heat Control film to the size and shape of the window. Leave the clear liner on the film, and mount the outside of the curl of the film onto the glass after you put a ¼" border of double-sided tape around the inside perimeter of the window.

d. Do not try to apply film to compound-curved or domed skylights. Window film will not stretch to conform to these 3-D surfaces; but it can crease, pucker, and wrinkle badly if you try to force it to fit. </blockquote>

I just had a new thought on how to get a sagging sheet of soft hot plastic to form to my balloon formed visor ....

-dwoo
 

Rob

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D!zzzy said:
Im thinking about getting the legendary helmet and gutting it outt and make it as my helmet, but you cant see though the visor i know. I really like that visor and just want to ask if there is any type of thing that lets you see through plastic. like spray on stuff that lets you see though 1 way, you know what im talkin about. so anyone hear of anything like that before?

Plastic Gold dust in clear paint.
 
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Deadguy

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Im thinking about getting the legendary helmet and gutting it outt and make it as my helmet, but you cant see though the visor i know. I really like that visor and just want to ask if there is any type of thing that lets you see through plastic. like spray on stuff that lets you see though 1 way, you know what im talkin about. so anyone hear of anything like that before?
Rob said:
Plastic Gold dust in clear paint.
For the record, Rob wasn't answering your question; he was revealing his method of see-through paint.

To my knowledge there is nothing that can make the plastic game helmet see-through.. you'd have to start over with clear plastic of some kind. Though perhaps if you carefully cut-out the visor on the central area (inside the raised areas) you might get away with resurfacing the whole face so that it blends, with something you can see through, covering the hole.

That's kinda' risky, but might be worth the effort, I dunno'
 
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CPU64

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The visor isn't even clear plastic anyway, Its just plated black plastic.
Even if you rub off the mirror layer, its still black plastic.
I think that using a tiny legendary helmet for this purpose, is a waste of a legendary helmet.
 

Rob

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Deadguy said:
For the record, Rob wasn't answering your question; he was revealing his method of see-through paint.

To my knowledge there is nothing that can make the plastic game helmet see-through.. you'd have to start over with clear plastic of some kind. Though perhaps if you carefully cut-out the visor on the central area (inside the raised areas) you might get away with resurfacing the whole face so that it blends, with something you can see through, covering the hole.

That's kinda' risky, but might be worth the effort, I dunno'
No. Deadguy, I think he was looking for tenting or see throw paint.

But keep an eye on me, I am happy you have my back.

Robert-3378
 
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Deadguy

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Rob said:
No. Deadguy, I think he was looking for tenting or see throw paint.
I really like that (legendary helmet) visor and just want to ask if there is any type of thing that lets you see through plastic.
He's looking for a spray that would turn the existing legendary helmet visor into transparent plastic from one side. In this way, they wouldn't need to replace the existing visor. The spray you suggested wasn't going to do that for him, so I just wanted to warn him that you weren't answering his question because you didn't elaborate beyond quoting his request for a "existing-plastic-becoming-transparent" spray, and gave him what I knew to be a tinting option for plastic that is already transparent.
 
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Rob

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So, he I looking for the Magic spray that changes plastic on an atomic level. Is that what you are saying.

Well then lit me know about it I could us some a the beach... :D
 
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