Well, ive been lingering here with my account, made a MKVI helm, scout shoulders and plate out of card board (sorry no pics no camera =/ ) And what ive seemed to noteice is taht there are either motorcycle visors or coke bottles, and so iw as wondering if there were any other routes to take, apart from either spending a good $40 on a motorcycle visor, or taking apart a 2 litre bottle and have a not so good looking visor. I am looking for something arund the $10 range. Please post if you have any ideas. -Ice