Mirrored Orange Spray Paint

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I need to buy some mirrored orange spray paint, just like the kind used to paint the visor on the mc helmet that comes with the legendary edition of halo 3.(like the one I'm wearing in my avatar). So does anyone know where I can buy some?
 
You can't. It isn't spray paint.


But if you do find some, that would be wondermous.
 
Phoenix_92 said:
What is it then?


It's a tinted chrome coating.

Check out some chroming videos on youtube to get an idea of the general process. Keep in mind though that these are opaque.
 
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Yodajammies said:
It's a tinted chrome coating.

You can buy some at Walmart for 20-30$ depending on how much you want. Its better than the toxic dip you can buy.
 
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dupli-color has metalcast paint that is a andoized surface color system. you need to get the chrome paint 1st.
spray the chrome down let it dry then spray on the metal cast

the metalcast paint is clear paint
 
link4044 said:
dupli-color has metalcast paint that is a andoized surface color system. you need to get the chrome paint 1st.
spray the chrome down let it dry then spray on the metal cast

the metalcast paint is clear paint
There's a hobby shop near by that has that transclucent paint so I'll have to pick some up. Thanks!
 
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Just a friendly reminder that it will not look like the legendary helmet visor, the finishes are very different.
 
CPU64 said:
Just a friendly reminder that it will not look like the legendary helmet visor, the finishes are very different.
It doesn't have to be the exact same shade as the visor, just close.
 
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Phoenix_92 said:
It doesn't have to be the exact same shade as the visor, just close.

It'd almost be easier (and probably cheaper) to just vapor deposition the visor gold. You'd only have to pay like $30 for the gold wire and you can easily see through it when it's done.
 
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BFDesigns said:
It'd almost be easier (and probably cheaper) to just vapor deposition the visor gold. You'd only have to pay like $30 for the gold wire and you can easily see through it when it's done.


Where can I have that done?
 
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rube said:
Where can I have that done?

You can actually do it all by your lonesome in your garage. You have to make a vacuum chamber big enough to hold the visor (cheap!), generally a 1/4"-1/2" walled 16" ID x 2' Steel sewer tile oughtta serve as the main body and a couple of 1" thick acrylic squares that cover both openings in the sides of the tube for side walls. You need a sufficent vacuum source and a rack to hold the visor above something like a lighting element for a huge street lamp (generally made of tungsten) and a source of electricity that will heat the element sufficiently (basically, enough wattage to power it on white hot). You place that assembly underneath the visor and wrap a gold wire (probably 20 gauge & low Karat) around the element. with everything sealed airtight in the chamber, you then fire up the vacuum and once a sufficent one has been reached you then power on the lighting element. It should get hot enough to melt the gold wire onto the element and eventually it will evaporate off of the element due to it being in a vacuum environment. It will coat everything within the chamber including the walls of the chamber itself and will be permanently adhered to the visor, but it should be thin enough that you can still see through it.

They use this process to mirror coat sunglasses lenses, space suit visors, motorcycle visors, anti-reflective coatings on binoculars and camera lenses, etc. It's a relatively easy process to do but it requires a basic knowledge of vacuum physics and metallurgy. Basically any metal of sufficient medium melting point can be used to do this process (i.e.: gold, silver, aluminum, nickel); bronze, brass, & copper are also possibilities but will likely not work well due to their higher melting points and the vacuum draw not being high enough; copper also poses a surface tension issue which also makes it hard to cast. Titanium, tungsten, & niobium will not work due to their incredibly high melting points. Pewter & bismuth may pose some interesting possibilities but also may not work due to their incredibly low melting temperatures (around the combustion point of paper for pewter and just over 500°F for bismuth) and their virtual impossibility to find in wire form. Try to stick to metals that melt (and therefore will evaporate) between 1050°F and 2000°F.
 
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If spray paint that gave off a real chrome/mirror like finish, I think many people would rejoice.
 
I know where you can buy some; it's at wal-mart next to the headlight fluid.

My apologies for the late reply, I had to put that. ;)

Like stated before, it doesn't exist or nobody is aware of it. It would be awesome though...
 
BFDesigns said:
You can actually do it all by your lonesome in your garage. You have to make a vacuum chamber big enough to hold the visor (cheap!), generally a 1/4"-1/2" walled 16" ID x 2' Steel sewer tile oughtta serve as the main body and a couple of 1" thick acrylic squares that cover both openings in the sides of the tube for side walls. You need a sufficent vacuum source and a rack to hold the visor above something like a lighting element for a huge street lamp (generally made of tungsten) and a source of electricity that will heat the element sufficiently (basically, enough wattage to power it on white hot). You place that assembly underneath the visor and wrap a gold wire (probably 20 gauge & low Karat) around the element. with everything sealed airtight in the chamber, you then fire up the vacuum and once a sufficent one has been reached you then power on the lighting element. It should get hot enough to melt the gold wire onto the element and eventually it will evaporate off of the element due to it being in a vacuum environment. It will coat everything within the chamber including the walls of the chamber itself and will be permanently adhered to the visor, but it should be thin enough that you can still see through it.

They use this process to mirror coat sunglasses lenses, space suit visors, motorcycle visors, anti-reflective coatings on binoculars and camera lenses, etc. It's a relatively easy process to do but it requires a basic knowledge of vacuum physics and metallurgy. Basically any metal of sufficient medium melting point can be used to do this process (i.e.: gold, silver, aluminum, nickel); bronze, brass, & copper are also possibilities but will likely not work well due to their higher melting points and the vacuum draw not being high enough; copper also poses a surface tension issue which also makes it hard to cast. Titanium, tungsten, & niobium will not work due to their incredibly high melting points. Pewter & bismuth may pose some interesting possibilities but also may not work due to their incredibly low melting temperatures (around the combustion point of paper for pewter and just over 500°F for bismuth) and their virtual impossibility to find in wire form. Try to stick to metals that melt (and therefore will evaporate) between 1050°F and 2000°F.


yikes :eek: I can see why he was hoping for the spray paint version.

edit: on second thought, is it difficult\possible to make a vacuum chamber at home?
 
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rube said:
Where can I have that done?

just a quick google search

http://www.vacmet.com/elamet.htm

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Lord of Midgard said:
yikes :eek: I can see why he was hoping for the spray paint version.

edit: on second thought, is it difficult\possible to make a vacuum chamber at home?

Nah, it's easy. Just get all the stuff that I mentioned above to build it. Then you'll wanna drill a hole big enough for a 1" floor gasket. Attach and seal the gasket, then attach and seal the piping for an "L" joint pvc tube that will lead into either a shop vac or a shark vac. Then seal the vacuum hose to the L-tube and presto, instant vacuum chamber. You may want to include a diffuser on the inside to direct the vacuum from the sides of the chamber instead of directly underneath the tungsten boat. All you have to do is get a piece of wood or thick gauge metal and elevate it inside the chamber underneath the boat so that it allows for airflow around the sides of the piece of wood.

Something like this:

BasicVacuumChamber.jpg


Pardon my hasty 3D model but I think you guys should have some kind of reference for this. The thing in the middle with the wires coming from it is the stand for the tungsten boat. There is a helix wire running between the 2 pegs but you may not be able to see it very well. However, this is the basic design that can be used. The plywood in the middle is a diffuser that hovers above the bottom with enough clearance on the sides to still allow air to flow. The concept & plumbing is very similar to a vacuuformer.
 
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I'm not entirely convinced that you need a $3500 vacuum pump to make this work at this scale, especially if you have everything completely sealed. From what I've seen in the way of vapor dep. footage, it only takes around 10 seconds to coat everything within the chamber. A shop vac ought to work out just fine, you may not even need a gauge for the pressure, just listen to the change in engine noise. It will probably sound like you put your hand over the hose when vacuum is achieved. After that, just flip on the power to the boat and wait for the metal to evaporate.

On a side note, you should be able to reuse the tungsten filament so long as it is fired up and powered down while under vacuum. Light bulb filaments are made of tungsten and the reason why they continue to work every time you flip them on is because they are under vacuum inside the light bulb. That's why they make a pop sound when they shatter, the pressure change.
 
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