Alternative to Resin and FiberGlass

[shippox10]

Yeah today I have work but I can start on it soon. It's definitely a good idea. And no it didn't deform too much...unless you use too much water in your paper mache mix. And I started an iron man helmet but it never really got finished lol...

 

[OverKill]

OK, well MrTiKi wants to make a suit to at the same time so I guess we should all and then once we are done post em and show paper mache work.

 

[shippox10]

Yeah sounds good to me :]

 

[OverKill]

So I am starting monday and peping the armor (all pieces) and what do you think the scale for me would be on the mark VI by robo. (normal detailed), I'm 5'11" and my chest is 17-18" and I think the scale I need is 78.815456 scale, do you think that is right?

 

[Dr Twinkletits]

So, if you soak the paper in water to make a pulp instead of regular paper strips, do you put it on the inside, or still on the outside? Or maybe both?

 

[MrTiKi]

I guess my post didn't make it on so here it goes again.

I too am 5'11 but I usually build scratch I'm not that good at pepping. Robo's files are scaled to a 6'0 person, no?? What the paper mache needs is a good top coat. Like bondo or maybe a strond paperclay recipe. I'll try to find one.

 

[OverKill]

OK, I did'nt know he scaled to 6' ok then I think I might kept it at what it is because I am going to or suppose to be 6'2". and The peping is not hard you nee to do and easy pep to start off not a hard one. Try a H2 ODST or anything that has flaps and not triangles on the numbered edges.

 

[shippox10]

Mini tut!!!

So, if you soak the paper in water to make a pulp instead of regular paper strips, do you put it on the inside, or still on the outside? Or maybe both?

Alright time for a MINI TUT :]

Step 1: Take paper bags from your local grocery store, and make all the baggers mad at you, and tear them into strips. Dunk in straight white elmers glue mixed with dryer lint and sort of squeegee the extra glue mixture off with your fingers, using a scissor shaped index and middle finger combo.

Step 2: Line the inside of your helmet or piece with this in layers a couple times, maybe 2 or 3 layers.

Step 3: Make a pulp mixture by placing strips of newspaper in a bucket filled with water overnight. It should resemble the strained pulp of an orange when you're done. Strain the mixture.

Step 4: Using the pulp mixture above, again with white elmers glue mixed with dryer lint, layer the inside or outside of the helmet. I prefer the inside to prevent sanding lol.

Step 5: Bondo the outside and shape the helmet or piece to your desire.

Step 6: Paint the piece and bask in the glory of your creation.

 

[OverKill]

Hey shippox10 and MrTiki when are you guys starting your armor, if you have time?

 

[MrTiKi]

Hey shippox10 and MrTiki when are you guys starting your armor, if you have time?

Dunno just let me know I'll try to follow along , I've been really busy. What you plan on going with??

 

[OverKill]

Dunno just let me know I'll try to follow along , I've been really busy. What you plan on going with??

I have just finished peping my H1 marine thighs and its in my signature of what I will be doing so Plan is to finish peping all my armor this coming week. I will start my shoulders today though and leave helmet and chest for this week monday-friday. Also planning to finish paper macheing all of my armor this month. But if you have no time don't sweat it I will need someone to perfect this new method for the masses.

 

[shippox10]

Well I haven't perfected it but it's darn near close. The mini tut I posted is the result of various research throughout the net on paper mache, and I pulled together the most universal concepts into a meta-tutorial. DO NOT FORGET THE LINT!!! Use dryer link in your glue base and it will strengthen your mache ten fold. I don't know why but marionette builders use it to make their puppets. I will post some pictures of my half finished iron man helmet soon so you guys can see how I've done it.

 

[OverKill]

Ok thanks and for everyone who is reading this dryer lint is very flamable ie. good fire starter, no smoking, and no sparks of any kind!

 

[MrTiKi]

Well I haven't perfected it but it's darn near close. The mini tut I posted is the result of various research throughout the net on paper mache, and I pulled together the most universal concepts into a meta-tutorial. DO NOT FORGET THE LINT!!! Use dryer link in your glue base and it will strengthen your mache ten fold. I don't know why but marionette builders use it to make their puppets. I will post some pictures of my half finished iron man helmet soon so you guys can see how I've done it.

So you soak the paper bag in glue to make a pulp?

Have you seen this recipe http://ultimatepapermache.com/paper-mache-clay. I am going to try it out, but I will probably cut out the flour , use alcohol instead of linseed oil and wood glue instead of PVA. All I need is to find some cheap toilet paper.

 

[shippox10]

So you soak the paper bag in glue to make a pulp?

Have you seen this recipe http://ultimatepapermache.com/paper-mache-clay. I am going to try it out, but I will probably cut out the flour , use alcohol instead of linseed oil and wood glue instead of PVA. All I need is to find some cheap toilet paper.

Sorry if the tut was unclear, but the pulp is made by soaking newspaper strips in a bucket of water. And yeah I'd avoid flour since animals may be attracted to your piece after (in other words, they will chew up your armor).

 

[MrTiKi]

What are you doing in step one? MAking pulp or adding the strips to your armor?


Step 1: Take paper bags from your local grocery store, and make all the baggers mad at you, and tear them into strips. Dunk in straight white elmers glue mixed with dryer lint and sort of squeegee the extra glue mixture off with your fingers, using a scissor shaped index and middle finger combo.

 

[OverKill]

I would say strips and the pulp is after it is soaked(to pulp) then mixed with glue. but I would do a couple layers of strips the add pulp layer for the last coat.

 

[MrTiKi]

Yeh I got it now the first step is the actual mache on the armor part. The next steps are for the pulp.

 

[shippox10]

Yeah sorry for any confusion the tut caused lol. I hadn't even thought about people taking the wording differently than me :/ Sorry

 

[PNOY ASSASSIN]

HAve u tried Rondo??? its fast and easy..