Deployment Tier System

Harri51

RMO
405th Regiment Officer
Good day,

As the title suggests this is about the Deployment armor tier system that is in place to have better understand and "Standards" if you wish to call them.

The back story is simple on the Discord or in messages I hear and see several members frustrated and confused on the tier system. What really qualifies as a tier 2 to 3; or how can I rate my current suit before deployment? The mantle is so vague what does this even mean? How is it this person got a tier "x" and mine is just as good as theirs?

I know with each changing of the DMO means a new set of eyes on the Mantle's interpretation. Now several members are fired up after RandomRangers Tier Three. With that said, as an RMO currently my job is to assist members with this and it is hard because all I can say is 95% accurate or above and proper details within 5 feet. Now, I know we have several reference threads and Ranger has been assembling strong threads to assist in this matter for all the members. Myself personally, I know other things about the tier system from discussions, but that is not my point. Outside of the ODST cosplay guide, we have been graced with, I would suggest an approved tier guide of what would be allowed seam lines in foam, undersuits, gloves, etc. Within this referencing the 343 cosplay guide or guides.

By what I mean is things such as images of the seams on foam, the details, and points if pepakura, links to several of the material builds/help threads. This is so any DMO, RMO, or member can go in and see what makes that tier 3,2, or 1. Or even material lists like what this paint color on the guide is under these brands, what this flak vest can be fabric wise, or how to get the rubber look on something that is meant to be rubber on "X" suit. Also, this then holds each costume to a set standard, and no one in the future when......"not pleased" ......can throw it back at division or regiment officers and (hopefully) it helps keep some peace.

I know my thought seems vague as well but this just a thought to hopefully expand and then becomes something to help our community more.
 
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CrimsonViper97

Member
Having a clear list of required details to get each tier for many of the most common suits would be really great. I know it's trickier because of the nature of game models to decide what details and materials are actually canon, but even a small step towards documented standards would be very useful.
 
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JulioAndy

New Member
Agreed. As someone who participates in multiple costume groups(Mando Mercs, 501st, etc), I think a sort of "costume reference library" would be very beneficial. Using the members own approved costumes to build a database of what "right" looks like for each tier and costume would do wonders for people new to the community like myself trying to build their first Halo costume.
 

FANGS

Commanding Officer
Community Staff
Division Staff
Agreed. As someone who participates in multiple costume groups(Mando Mercs, 501st, etc), I think a sort of "costume reference library" would be very beneficial. Using the members own approved costumes to build a database of what "right" looks like for each tier and costume would do wonders for people new to the community like myself trying to build their first Halo costume.
Hello JulioAndy! I'm a 17 year member of the 501st and I agree, that CRL is a thing of beauty. The issue for us is that the CRL is actually a separate database that a 501st member structured and set up for them. We actually reached out to him to see if he was interested at all in doing something similar here and what the cost would be. Unfortunately, from what I can remember, he did that while he was a student and now is working and I think has a family etc. and the time just isn't there for him to take on something that massive. Or at least something like that, it's been a few years since we talked to him. Anyway, getting someone to build something like that is very expensive unless you happen to have someone like the 501st did that was willing to do it for free.

Having said all of that, we are most definitely trying to work on SOMETHING that will be effective for our members.
 

he4thbar

Sr Member
If you need some guidelines for tier 3 for odst I have some notes that I was suggested when I asked what I needed to go from t2 to t3?
some quick ones i remember
  • ODST back pack
  • chest buckles
  • flashbangs/stun grenades
  • markings (red slashes and little marks/insignias)
stuff like that.
 

JulioAndy

New Member
I'm a 17 year member of the 501st and I agree, that CRL is a thing of beauty. The issue for us is that the CRL is actually a separate database that a 501st member structured and set up for them. We actually reached out to him to see if he was interested at all in doing something similar here and what the cost would be. Unfortunately, from what I can remember, he did that while he was a student and now is working and I think has a family etc. and the time just isn't there for him to take on something that massive. Or at least something like that, it's been a few years since we talked to him.
Hello, good to meet a fellow trooper. I'm a 10 year member myself. Thank you for informing me, I had no idea.

Perhaps there could be something more like the Mando Mercs old costume requirement/library (they've changed it since I last looked at it).
Where each part is described and suggestions are provided for materials and things like that.

E.g. Boba Fett
"Helmet
• Dome and cheeks must be painted an olive-green color (matte).
• Upper cheeks must be painted a dark blue-green (matte).
• Mandibles, brow, rear band, and key slots must be painted dark red (matte). Key slots are weathered metallic, like the earcaps
• The rear panels must be painted a medium green color (matte)
• The earcaps must painted silver and weathered to match references.
• 18 kill stripes must be painted on the left side of the dome. They must be painted dark orange. They shall not touch the helmet brow.
• A borden connector greeblie must appear on the inner lower portion of the right cheek.
• The front left side of the dome must prominently feature the famous dent.
• The paint chipping and weathering on the helmet must be painted to match visual references as closely as possible both in color and in weathering pattern.
• The rear key slots must feature a Casio MQ-1 circuit board or resin copy mounted behind the openings.
• Helmet must have a rangefinder and stalk. The rangefinder’s upper portion must be painted black and the lower portion must be clear/transluscent.


Flight Suit
• Must be a cotton or cotton blend one or two-piece garment colored light grey and must fit snuggly to the wearer.
• Must have long sleeves with short sleeves on top of them.
• Cargo-style thigh pouches must be present with inward facing flaps.
• Each ankle must have shin pockets separated into two compartments.
• Flight suit must be weathered, particularly around the bottom of the legs."

Obviously it could be more or less descriptive based on the costume/character. And to keep it within web budget/ability constraints it could be a locked forum post that can only be altered by the leadership.

I understand this would be a huge undertaking and you may already have something like that in the works. Just figured I'd give my 2 cents
 

FANGS

Commanding Officer
Community Staff
Division Staff
Yes it is a massive undertaking. Fortunately though, we don't have the requirements that they do for such specifics. Unfortunately, that's almost harder to describe in some weird ways.

But like I said, we are working on it. We will get something for you guys and it will be the best that we can make it.
 
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