Foam build, but with plastic sheets

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  1. Dirtdives

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    31124a6e01ca596863cbad15b43f1ece--so-funny-funny-stuff.jpg Reaching for the wallet.......so close........

    Pescadero This is definitely a unique building material. How does it take paints? Great job so far!!!
     
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  2. Pescadero

    Pescadero New Member

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    Thank you ☺️

    I use normal spraypaint. Sometimes it peels off a little but I spray silver before normal paint,. So it looks more battle damaged.
    A friend said I have to dry every layer longer. I will try this...
     
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  3. Dirtdives

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    You might try sanding the pieces down a bit before painting......it will hold the paint better. Plastic sometimes has a sheen to it that prevents full adhesion.
     
  4. TurboCharizard

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    Your friend may be super smart, I don't know him/her but I'd put more value into the instructions on the side of the can written by the people that mixed up the paint and chemical concoction. A lot of sprays have a listed temperature and humidity range for application as well as layer and recoat times which all works together to help the paint properly cure and bond to the material you're applying it to. Like Dirtdives said, rough up the surface with a Scotchbrite pad or very fine sandpaper to help with base coat adhesion and then thin coats to build up the colour.

    Many sprays for plastics like Krylon are formulated to work best between 15°C and 30°C with low to moderate humidity below 30% and working outside these temperatures will change cure times. Hotter and dryer in summer? Quicker set up! Colder and damp in the winter, lol what is curing?

    Between coat times are also important because it's the difference between the paint being a tacky surface and a fully hardened surface shell. If you're hitting the times right for applications of the same colour you'll get one thicker and consistent layer of colour, if you wait too long you run the risk of getting many thin layers that can chip and flake off easily. Most paints for plastics are 10 to 15 minutes between layers but always double check, one of the paints I was using this week was only one minute suggested.

    Once you work with paints and get used to your environment you can start figuring out your fudge factor for adjusting times, I live in what used to be labelled as "temperate rainforest" so humidity is a big factor and if I want to keep parts having smooth paint coats I need to work inside and keep air moving with fans so that bubbles don't appear and create an orange peel surface. Other times like this last week with an average afternoon temperature of 32°C and evenings hovering around 20°C has meant that between coat times have been shortened by five minutes or so because it's "the Canadians are melting" hot out.

    PAINT
    SCIENCE
    PAINT
     
  5. Dirtdives

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    giphy.gif PAINT, SCIENCE, PAINT, SLEEP.........
     
  6. TurboCharizard

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    I'm not familiar with that last one. Is it a form of thermoplastic?
     
  7. Dirtdives

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    It's a form of thermo-unconsciousness.
     
  8. Pescadero

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    Have I do this every layer or is per colour enough?
     
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  9. Dirtdives

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    You could sand each layer of paint or just the last one, but sanding the base plastic is key.
     
  10. Pescadero

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    Really really interesting point! I think I do it that way. It saves time. 12 hours between every layer is a long time (thats what my friend said) and I don't have enough space to paint all parts together.
     
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  11. Pescadero

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    I did right tigh armor with a holster. I will secure the Magnum with a strap and velcro.

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    And I finished the second knee . Thats only chest plate and Helmet left.
    But now short break because I'm gonna rock at open air festival next days :D
    I'll continue next week.
    Hope I can finish this thing till 04. August. I want to wear that armor at this event soooo much:lol:
     
  12. Pescadero

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    Let's put some paint on it...

    After sanding and primer I spray a layer silver on it. And in some edges a little bit tooth paste to similuate battle damage later.

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    After dry time I spray some layers anthrazite/ dark grey color on it. And some red markings...

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    I used a rough sponge and smooth sand paper to remove tooth paste and colour on the edges and give it a more matt look.
    After that some black wash.
    I like how it came out. It has a light metallic shine.

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  13. PaiganBoi

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    Colours are looking good. We need to see some test fitting!!
     
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    Thanks...
    I try what I can do tomorrow or Thursday
     
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    Finished today my helmet with Eva...

    This is how I did it:

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    I just followed Andrew DFTs tutorials and templates.

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  16. PerniciousDuke

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    I really like your plastic technique. It ends up looking molded like a lot of storm trooper suits.

    For the paint... did anyone mention primer? Most paints don't like to stick to anything besides other paints. Primer is like a buffer. It sticks well to most things and then the paint will like to stick to the primer. With most spraypaints I only wait like 30 minutes between layers on a warm day, two hours on a colder day and I avoid painting on humid days.
     
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    Didn't I mentioned primer?....;)
    You always have to spray primer. Your paint Methode sounds good. That's what I did here.
     
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    Last parts finished...
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    I did 2 layers and the backplate.

    Some work with Dremel....
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    And some pieces to give some distance to chestplate.
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    Ohhhh and I forgot to post fully painted set:
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    And I forgot to mention how I did visor. I got cheap transparent plastic sheet, cut them together and put tinted foil for car windows on it.
    I never do this again! It was hell! I used hot glue but that didn't hold parts on position. And the foil... Well, it sticked on all, table, fingers,... But not the plastic!
    At the end I camouflaged it as battle damaged.I had no time to think about other solution.
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    I think I will order vacuum formed visor:D
     
  20. Pescadero

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    Some pictures of an event last weekend . First time I wear this armor...

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    Now I know what to change...
    I glued all straps with hot glue. And it was really really hot t that day....
    Ok, I did it because to change it later if it doesn't fit. But one piece after the other fell down

    And I don't like the leg and belly armor! I think I will change it to Halo 3 or 4 armor.
    The upper body is great. Thats what I want to keep but the other piece...

    One more pics with some friends, the almighty samurai

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  21. Lieutenant Jaku

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    Pescadero the ab plate looks a bit loose in the last picture
     
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  22. Begocer

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    Maximum crotch protection is what that is!

    Great work on the suit! Love the Boomco repaint too!
     
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  23. Liamthedevastator

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    Great work! I'm very impressed with the outcome. My favourite part is the shoulders; you achieved excellent definition on those.
     
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  24. Pescadero

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    Thank you, guys

    Jep I like the shoulders too. Better than I thought they will be.
     
  25. Pescadero

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    Thats right. That what I want to change.
    The problem is if I really change version the upper torso armor is different, right?

    I have to think about that....
    Perhaps I keep the version but I wear a tactical vest under that and velcro armor on it.
     

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