Duke's Skyrim Nightingale Armor

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  1. PerniciousDuke

    PerniciousDuke RXO & BCO 405th Regiment Officer Community Staff

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    Oh there's gonna be some accidents most likely. I'm just hoping it's not a train wreck.
     
  2. Sean Anwalt

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    Haha, leather work is a difficult skill to master. But if you keep going the way you've been, and measure three or four times, then cut big and trim when necessary, you've got it made.

    To bad there's not a cloth version out there you can take apart at the seams and replace with leather...
     
  3. PerniciousDuke

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    First run went really well!

    For those of you that dont know, I like to really write out what I do. The reason is because I'm likely to forget so having something to look back on is really helpful for me. But, if someone else gets use from it then that is great too. :)


    Starting with the wrist guards:

    After cutting out the shape I used 150 grit sand paper to get flatter, smoother edges.
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    Used a leather edge beveler to knock of the edge. Then finished with a 220 grit to really round it out.
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    Used a pencil to draw a pattern onto leather tracing paper (it's like really thick wax paper)
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    Then I used a paper towel, or sponge, to slowly wet the leather, starting with the backside and letting it seep through.
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    With the leather wet and pliable set on a hard surface such as marble, I used a leather stylus to transfer the pattern by imprinting it in the leather.
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    Next I cut along the lines at a 90 degree angle using a swivel knife. Named because the base can swivel independently from the finger hold at the top, allowing for smooth curved cuts. Be aware of how deep you cut as well. I generally cut half as deep as the leather is.
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    Leather is abrasive and dulls knives quickly. Leather also needs to be cut cleaning, if the blade snags it will be obvious once dyed. In between cuts I sharpen my blade using the rough side of a dry piece of leather. A buffing compound called rouge is added to give the sharpened edge a better finish.
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    Next I use a bevel stamp to push down one side of the cut, giving the leather that real 3d effect. :)
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    Next I use a background stamp (Tandy #E294-04) to hide my terrible bevel stamping abilities. :)
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    I think it looks pretty cool. I took that wet leather and held it over my roommate's wrist. Holding that shape as best I could I took it to my heat gun and got it to dry in the proper shape.
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    To achieve my desired color I apllied two coats of Eco-Flo Black Oil Dye with a paper towel, making sure to not press into the pits.
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    Next I apllied one coat of Eco-Flo Black Smoke Hi-Lite Stain using a paper towel making sure to get all the crevices this time. I wiped excess off with a paper towel and used a heat gun to dry.
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    I took 220 grit sandpaper and made random scuff marks.
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    Then I applied one coat of Eco-Flo Satin Shene to seal and protect the leather. Doing so also got rid of all the visible scuffing. Oh well.
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  4. PerniciousDuke

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    Here's an example of how tricky leather can be to dye:

    Even with the same exact dying process one turns out black and the second, brown.
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    Possible reasons- first one could have had more black dye in each coat, first one could have let the hi-lite black smoke sit longer before wiping off excess, second one could have not dried as long before applying shene. The shene likes to remove undried hi-lite.
     
  5. Dirtdives

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    Hey PerniciousDuke.....I was watching The Curse of Oak Island the other day and I learned something I think you might find helpful.

    The team was looking for a particular stone in a nearby town that was lost for about 70 years. The last sighting of it was in a book binding store. It was in the window display. The stone, although was an important part of the current investigation, was used by the binding company as a leather softener and texture "maker". They would beat the leather on the stone slab w/ a soft mallet to give it softness, texture and "character" as they put it. Perhaps that is something you could use as a technique in your build?
     
  6. PerniciousDuke

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    That is certainly a good idea Dirtdives ! A lot better than the suggestion from the leather forum guy who said I should run over it with my car! :eek:
     
  7. Dirtdives

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    I don’t think you want the “run over by car” look on your build. That is a different forum group.
     
  8. PerniciousDuke

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    Update:

    I've figured out what was causing my colors to turn out different. Normally I would let leather dry and shape overnight. The first hand plate I heat gunned a little then went and got dinner. The second hand plate I heat gunned a lot. That caused the smooth side's pores to close and not soak as much black dye.


    Exciting news though... I figured out how to get those bigger ridges. It's a technique using what's called a bone file. I pressed this plastic tool in to the reverse side over and over again during the drying process.

    The result.... pretty game like if you ask me. :)
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  9. PerniciousDuke

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    Looking like a weekend of leather. I hope my neighbors don't mind all the hammering.

    Finished (in 11 hours)
    2 hands
    2 arms
    2 shoulders
    The bottom middle of the tunic

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  10. Sean Anwalt

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    So very much like
     
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  11. PerniciousDuke

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    Nooooooooo!

    Apparently 5 days of sitting on the ground hammering leather is all my back can take. Something clicked today and I can barely walk. :cry:

    I'm not even halfway through either. I've finished 14 pieces with 19 more to go!

    I'm still very happy with my progress though. Here's a photo of why I made the dummy. I can wrap the leather around to dry overnight and harden in the correct shape.

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  12. PaiganBoi

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    That sucks to hear. Either way rest up and make sure your back is much better before going at it again. Risking permanent injury while doing this is not worth it.
     
  13. Sean Anwalt

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    I agree with paiganboi. Rest up, take some ibuprofen or an appropriate substitute, and drink a lot of water. After a day or so, try some simple stretches and beginners yoga (no one has to know you do the yoga...) the stretches will suck noodles at first, but that's what you'll have to do, probably.

    If after a few days the pain isn't gone, it's time for THE CHIROPRACTOR! (que screechy scary music)

    Back problems are the worst!
     
  14. Dirtdives

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    Ok speaking from years of exp with back issues for the first 24 hrs Ice the area. Advil/ibuprofen and rest. No heat yet. If you have a vibration mat or pad, great. If not, you may want to try stretching. Not yoga!!!! You need to focus on the effected area. Yoga is great to prevent issues. Not to help elevate the pain. The next 48 continue with the advi/ibuprofen and now add some heat. A hot shower would be best. Avoid heating pads. Depending on where your injuries are will determine what best stretching exercises need be done. Now if pain hasn’t subsided yes a chiropractor would be the best thing for you no scary noise effects needed. I have one on standby and is great.
     
  15. TurboCharizard

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    Wow, look at all these guys with the great advice.

    Here I am sitting with a messed up back from years of hockey and lacrosse thinking, "nah he's fine, he can still feel his legs, keep on working, whatever".

    Do I need a sarcasm tag?
     
  16. Sean Anwalt

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    That is a man with experience.

    Was gonna put an icon of a worshipping smiley face, but couldn't find it.

    ... maybe i'll try the ice / ibuprofen / rest for 24 hours thing.....

    Hey Dirtdives, what about if my knees are acting funny and starting to click and pop oddly?

    That's being serious, not trying to be sarcastic.
     
  17. Dirtdives

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    Have exp with that as well. The clicking might be from the cartilage in the joint. After time the cartilage may wear away and fold over on itself. The click is the flap snapping back into place. Best case scenario is that click is just fluid being displaced like cracking your finger knuckles. Exercise can help with this in both cases
     
  18. Sean Anwalt

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    Awesome, thanks!

    Glad I read things on this forum.
     
  19. PerniciousDuke

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    I think that concludes our Doctor Dirt corner. Thank you for the advice. (My brother is a dr though so thankfully I don't have to see a chiro, my bro is pretty good at it.)

    But, I have had to shift gears and do more computer work. So far I've unfolded the Nightgale Bow (file below) and will start assembling that now.

    I've also started working on the little tid bits of the suit. Some pieces look metal to me and I'm hoping I can get them 3d printed. I've already started tracing them. My MS Paint skills have been upgraded thanks to a cool use of the Inkscape program that Huntress217 showed me.

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  20. PerniciousDuke

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    I've updated the above post to include the correct Nightingale Bow unfold. The other one was generic 200pieces, this one is my unfold with 89 pieces. :)
     
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  21. PerniciousDuke

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    8 and a half hours later I have a piece of a bow!

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  22. PerniciousDuke

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    I applaud anyone who has done a BR pep. Long skinny enclosed models are no fun.

    Saturday I got the other side.
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    Then comes the tricky part..
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    But with some determination it came together.
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    I'll take a little break again before attempting the other end.

    That last photo is like a "how many franchises can you spot?" photo. Lol. I count six. I'll put the answers upside down in my next post. :lol:
     
  23. xXDashIVXx

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    Well, I'm going to just name everything I see... pokemon, halo, minecraft, mountain dew, NFL, dr.who, zelda, I cant make out the picture because of the glare, but I think it's a guitar? A d whatever your shirt is. Oh, a d dont forget skyrim...
     
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  24. PerniciousDuke

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    Mountain Dew! Ok then there's 7.

    What did you think was NFL xXDashIVXx ? I can guarantee only nerdy things in my house. :)
     
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  25. TurboCharizard

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    You missed the Star Wars clock in the far right.
     
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