Halo: Subliminal Messaging Evolved?

[SGT Razor]

I have found out last week in Physics that sound travels at a speed of 343 m/s (that's meters per second). 343 Guilty Spark anyone?

Then there's 2401 Penitent Tangent from Halo 2. Remember him? What does he have to do with this you ask? The fourth root of 2401 and the cubed root of 343 is 7. I don't know what that means, but I know for a fact it's not a coincidence. I'm still working on that.

John 117. The first thing that pops into my mind is what's written in the Bible. Specifically, John 1:1-7. Here's what it says:

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
"There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. He came as a witness, to bear witness about the light, that all might believe through him."

Now there's the slogan for Halo 3:


"Believe"


Anyone find this curious at all?

 

[Spartan 270]

Whoa...................

 

[Keegan]

Oh yes, that is very interesting. That cant be a coincidence

 

[Primal Weyland]

Bungie works a lot around the number 7 and multiples of it - 343 is 7 to the power of 4 (no small coincidence that he was the Monitor of Installation 04). 2401 is 7 to the power 5 (again, no small coincidence in that he was the Monitor of Installation 05).

There are seven Halo rings in all. The Seventh Column, anyone?

Also, the Biblical reference to John being John 1:1-7 quite possibly ties into the Biblical theme of Halo 3 and the Terminal (the Ark, the Flood...)...

There is no subliminal messaging - only, Bungie was exceptionally clever with the elements in their game.

 

[Twitchfmx8811]

I think is a coincidence although I wish it wasn't because as a Christian myself I think that would be just awesome. But you have to think... If they were trying to make biblical suggestions then why would they make some of the characters cuss?

 

[shadow8136]

thats amazing i didnt know a game could be so detailed in a way that most of us didnt understand!
[Huh?]

 

[supertaco]

Also, the Biblical reference to John being John 1:1-7 quite possibly ties into the Biblical theme of Halo 3 and the Terminal (the Ark, the Flood...)...

i was just thinking about this yesterday, the ark of the covenant, sound familiar. but the bad thing is that master chief couldn't just get in a boat to save himself from the flood in halo.

 

[Xavier]

actually... the word "word" in that passage is a mistranslation from Greek, it was actually "Logos" at the time, which has 3 or 4 different meanings, one of which being word.

but yea, it doesn't surprise me that halo is rooted in religion, i mean... the covenant? come on lol

 

[noName]

so wait does that make master chief jesus or like john the baptist? cause that'd be really cool either way. creep though i never realized it. whos cortana?

 

[lionheart912]

I forget what site it was, but there was a guy who tied the Master Chief to John the Baptist. The Bible says that John the Baptist was a forerunner to Christ. At the end of H3, Spark says that Chief is Forerunner. As for 117, 7 to the 6th power= 117,649. At least thats my take on it.

 

[noName]

hmm this is interesting.....maybe someone will make a halo religion

 

[NuggetWarmer]

I think is a coincidence although I wish it wasn't because as a Christian myself I think that would be just awesome. But you have to think... If they were trying to make biblical suggestions then why would they make some of the characters cuss?

It's not a coincidence. Bungie has said themselves that they put in religious messages throughout the game. Ever wonder why this is the same?

The symbol is used in Scientology.
http://206.16.223.63/evidence.html
Scroll to the bottom of the page.

 

[noName]

but why do they do it?

 

[Belakor]

... Ever wonder why this is the same?

The symbol is used in Scientology.
http://206.16.223.63/evidence.html
Scroll to the bottom of the page.

You do know that site isn't real right? it was created to be a part of the Iris ARG in the lead up to Halo 3

 

[abandonship]

but why do they do it?

to add depth

 

[noName]

halo really has deep religious meanings ha ha i never would've guessed. but it all makes sense

 

[GruntOfAction]

halo really has deep religious meanings ha ha i never would've guessed. but it all makes sense

Something else ironic too: I was looking through this music book and I found a song called "The great forerunner of the Morn". Whats even funnier is in the song it makes refrences to prophets and such...

 

[tom cheeseman]

Bungie have not created a game, in essence they have created a universe that has mysteries like the real world.

Interms of biblical references to the Master Chief, The Book of Revelation 1:17 is in my opinion the best, it was the first one I was told about.

When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: "Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last.

For those that know the novels, you know that John was the first one chosen to be entered into the Spartan II program and we all know him to be the last.

Revelation 1:20 is quite good as well.

The mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand and of the seven golden lampstands is this: The seven stars are the angels[c] of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.

Could the stars be the monitors? Could the churches be the Halo installations?... Who knows?

 

[LastSpartan]

I forget what site it was, but there was a guy who tied the Master Chief to John the Baptist. The Bible says that John the Baptist was a forerunner to Christ. At the end of H3, Spark says that Chief is Forerunner. As for 117, 7 to the 6th power= 117,649. At least thats my take on it.

Be carefull buddy, you're spoiling.

 

[Vrogy]

Ever watch a retard for a long time? You start to wonder if he really does things randomly. You start to draw lines of logic around his drooling, whimpering, and diaper-shitting.

It's a human thing. We are designed to sense patterns. "Pattern Recognition", it's a longstanding theme, and the quiet, simple truth behind religon.

Essentially, Bungie wants their universe to be open-ended. They want there to be patterns there for people to find. They want people to connect it with their religon and feel deeply about it.

BUT WHY?

They owe it to their stockholders.