First build: Thom A293 based concept armor

Discussion in 'New Recruits' started by Thom A293, Nov 21, 2016.

  1. mblackwell1002


    Dude, that Mannequin looks just like you! lol

    My face just melted a little...that looks reaaaaly good. What I mean to say is: "That looks really Papeesheewoosh"

    This build is amazing(papeesheewoosh), I can't wait to see more.
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  2. Distemper


    That is an awesome idea. Currently working on a duct tape dummy for making pasterns and holding armor but I may change to something like this lol it looks allot easier and sturdier.
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  3. electricknite


    Distemper my experience with duct tape dummies was terrible. I tried making one a few months ago and the spray foam wouldn't set. Not to discourage you from making one but just in case, another way of making fairly accurate mannequin for pattern making is to build it from contact cement and eva foam.
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  4. Distemper


    Yeah I tried the spray foam at first and it did not go well lol. I have just been cramming each piece full of stuffying from Jo-ann Fabrics. I have a few gallons of Barge Cement and lots of EVA foam floor mats so I may end up trying that. Thank you for the tip.
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  5. vivalablake89


    Haha Now that's a Mannequin! Great job on everything dude looks amazing!
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  6. Thom A293

    Thom A293

    I know I got no experience with it, bit I'm thinking of at least trying the ducktape and spray over this. If it fails like you guys and gals say, then I guess I'll try something different:D.
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  7. Thom A293

    Thom A293

    Working on the chest lod upgrade, all the other prices are done so once this is finished I'll move on to sealing! Hoo Raw! tmp_26357-IMG_20170411_1333381935099158_zpsz66wljey.jpg
  8. Thom A293

    Thom A293

    Have I got some progress to show to you...
    "Vegie tales.. vegie tales.. vegie tales, vegie tales... There's never never never never never a show..."
    Ok, that's not what I wanted to show you. :D:p

    Back On Topic! had a nice 4 day weekend and sadly its almost over :cry:, but I was able to get a bit done. Posting this with the data of my phone (cause my internet is down), I had finished adding all the detail to the whole suit, the main hoo-rah being the chest piece.

    Now opening the doors to sealing and I thought I had a process for that: kwik seal the holes, mod podge a layer, wet sand that down, then spray on the plasti-dip and vwa-la be ready to paint. So that process I tried on the hand armor bits, the shoulder piece, and the helmet to find that it sucked... I hadn't kwik sealed enough so there was still a lot you could see and the plasti-dip spray is not what I thought. I had heated it up all nice and shaked it really well to get a spray that was big drops of dip, it was not some nice even coating that I had imagined:confused::eek:. So I thought hey, maybe it needs a few coats to even out, three+ coats in on the pieces and they were still all bumpy. And then to top it all off my can half way through decided to oose out spray around the cap slowly but constantly. I could of just had a bad can, I have two more, but it was so bad so I probably wont use them. I was happily able to resurrect the helmet by wet sanding and sealing some more followed by a layer of mod and then wet sanding again. The end result I quite like and can't wait to have done.

    After that whole mess, I got a process that seems to work nicely: Mod podge, kwik seal, mod podge, wetsand. So far the forearms, boots, butt plate, front of cod, a thigh, and a shin have been done this way and all they need is a wetsanding then off to painting.

    My paint idea, undersuit, weathering, all that lovely stuff is coming from the HALO Reach Deliver Hope Kat suit used in the trailer.

    I haven't colored the chest and commando shoulder to what they will look like cause that would take a long time, so I just did a slight coloring.

    This suit looks the most realistic out of any Spartan suit I have seen, even any other halo trailers. Right now I had experimented on the butt plate part of the warn look which is the chipped off paint. I like it a lot, all I need to do is less big splotches and more small cuts and splotches (like in the deliver hope kat suit). My choice to cover up the metal to have the green on is toothpaste. This is because even though its a bit tricky to play with cause it likes to stick to itself, it wont block painting like vaseline or cause a yellow stain like mustand. Plus it leaves a minty paint smell which you think would be good but nope.

    Last hoo-rah was getting the amazballs M-73 from mblackwell1002. It was great to be able to meet up and we talked about our builds and he brought a really cool titan helmet:cool:. Once I got home I put all the pieces together and awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, she be nice and quite big. And I am still a teen so saying that this rifle is "dope" over and over when I don't say "dope" really ever is quite ok.

    And I don't know why but my favorite group of parts are these and this angle:D.

    Anyways, that's all so far and I'm hoping to have some more pieces painted for the next post soon.
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2017
  9. SI3RRA 117

    SI3RRA 117

    Awesome man top notch work. The plasti dip in a can doesn't come out as well as brushing it on. The can is much easier and faster tho. But if buy the stuff in a can then thin it with acetone you can brush it on. It takes a lot more coats that way but the result is much smoother. I think plasti dip was a pain and it will crinkle if the foam is stressed. I will probably not go the plasti dip route with my new builds. I'm thinking I want to try the angelus leather paints right on the foam or maybe some type of latex. Just something with some more flex.
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  10. vivalablake89


    Amazing work!!! The Details from the thinner craft foam really give that extra Awsomeness! The LMG gives me goosebumps it looks amazing Thom, you really out did yourself on that one. Can't wait to see the rest painted up and ready to go, and good luck with the undersuit I'm sure you will get it perfect and I will be taking notes seeing how I'm having trouble with mine hahaha ;).
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  11. mblackwell1002


    woop, woop!

    Dude, that looks amazing! Your new process seems to work very well, the seams are pretty much's fantastic. I have a feeling I'll be picking up some modge-podge anq kwik-seal real soon. :)

    Oh-oh, it seems you're ready to put in a looooot of sanding hours in very soon. That gun is gonna be a long haul. It'll look fantastic once you're done with it.

    And Blake, I think you meant "Papeesheewoosh-ness"...:p
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  12. PerniciousDuke

    PerniciousDuke RXO 405th Regiment Officer

    I'm sure you already know how amazing your suit is turning out. In fear of inflating your ego I will only say it one more time (at least until your next picture post).... It's soooo good!!! :D

    I'm glad you found a different method once you realized your first one wasn't working for you. A lot of people would have left it, and for me that is the biggest difference why some suits turn out better than others. You have a vision and you're willing to work until you see it come to life. I love it.

    Your undersuit idea looks like it will have a lot of rubber. Any plans for that? Seems like it could get heavy quick.
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  13. Thom A293

    Thom A293

    Thanks all, your comments mean a lot. To me it just looks like any other spartan suit, but I'll just listen to you guys :D.
    Latex paint would be good but I'm cheap and for some reason I love plain old spray paint, use it right you can get a good result.
    The undersuit Willie a but different than other undersuit yeah, the undersuit will really just be where it's visible, my plan for the knees though is to just use a pair of military elbow sleeve pads, they are pretty tight but they work nicely. The rest will be some fabric (IDK what it will be yet) with my plan is car rubber door seal strips as that O ring look that's on that Kat suit. So the neck, shoulders, and but will be made like that. For the shoulders I'm planning on making something but IDK what yet.
  14. PerniciousDuke

    PerniciousDuke RXO 405th Regiment Officer

    Well, with good ol spray paint just be mindful not to use enamel. I thought all cheap cans are the same. Most are acrylic and some are enamel and they don't layer well.
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  15. Cactus117

    Cactus117 Member

    Awesome build spartan, very clean !
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  16. CrimsonViper97


    This. Is. So. COOOOOOOL. I've always had a soft spot for the M-73, good to see it get some attention.
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  17. Thom A293

    Thom A293

    Prrrrrrrogress update! Finally with my internet back and some sunshine I can show you guys a little bit of progress. All the pieces have almost all the pieces are sealed and ready to go. The Chest, a thigh, and a shin are all that's left in this faze. I have the base metal color on a lot of the pieces and today tried putting the base colors onto a few of these pieces. With my minty toothpaste I dabbed the pieces up where I wanted the paint to be warn off and sprayed on two-three laters. I actually just finished wetsanding the hands and one of the boots and I am quite happy with how they turned out :D. Its just the base coat so I still need to paint brush on the rest of the colors. I might tape off some things and spray them, but a few pieces will be tricky if done like this so painting by hand and them wetsanding again will do just fine. Still a lot of painting to go, but they are starting to take shape:

    Here are the boots side by side, one has been wetsanded and the other has not.

    Other than that, I met up with the amazeballs mblackwell1002 again and got my armor ability module. The front and back separate so that you can wire the module with lights. A light sanding and it will be ready to paint. I also got my visor from stonyprops on etsy and I cant wait to have the helmet done and it installed.
  18. StayFrosty


    Haha every time that I come back on to the 405th after a few weeks you've made great progress! I really do need to get back on the forums though...
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  19. SI3RRA 117

    SI3RRA 117

    Looking great. Just curious what it is exactly your wet sanding? Is the plastidip texture or just sanding to weather it? Can't wait to see the armor ability all lit up!
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  20. Thom A293

    Thom A293

    Thanks man, and yes, you need to get back on the forums. Progress is slower than I would of wanted, but progress is still progress.

    So after every bit of painting or sealing I have been wet Sanding the entire piece. My first wetsanding was after the Mod podge and kwik. The second was after the metal color and then the third was after this base color. My hope is only one more wetsanding per piece cause so far I'm doing a lot of wetsanding. Let ke just say though that it's heavilyworth it. I did a few more pieces and they are immensly smooth, no paint feel what so ever which vastly helps with the armor illusion.
    So I only had the shoulder and helmet in plasti, after that I switched to my own process cause I didn't like how it was (mod, kwik, mod, wetsand). Yeah, if I am a bit rougher it greatly helps with the weathering, but at this point it was mainly for getting off the toothpaste which really stuck on there.
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  21. Schankerz


    The paint and weathering are looking incredible! The unpainted black helmet with that orange visor looks badass man, I can't wait to see that of all things painted! Keep up the progress! It's getting so close!!
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  22. mblackwell1002


    Those look killer, man! Weather those bad boys and get 'em done!! :D

    UPDATEEEESSSSSSsssssSSSssss! Yaasssss...yasss...
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  23. StayFrosty


    Haha don't even talk to me about slow progress! I keep saying that I'm going to finish my non-halo project soon, but it's taking forever, and stopping me from starting other projects. I really need to buckle down and get it done!
  24. SPARTAN1803

    SPARTAN1803 Member

    This is looking spectacular man!!!
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  25. Thom A293

    Thom A293

    Small update, so I finished sealing the rest of the pieces and sprayed on up to the metal coat (except the chest). The rest of the pieces I had that needed to have the toothpaste wetsanded off were completed and they look quite fancy. There is still a bit of toothpaste residue that seams to keep appearing on the parts, but I'll just do another quick clean and they will be fine.

    Getting close to being able to full paint the suit I went back to the drawing table and took another look at the paint scheme I had for the suit. I actually really liked how the grey turned out on my forearms and boots so I wanted to incorporate that more into the suit, I also added a dark grey to replace the black I thought was a lot of the details on the suit when it wasn't.

    I was thinking and thought I showed you guys the finished pistol but looked back and saw I didn't. Soooooo, here is the complete pistol. It has a total of about half a million vertices and I already split it apart for printing. I was going to have the long barrel and stock and such, but as I got further into the stock it was looking less like the m6. Plus the long barrel was hindering on the look since the socoms front attachment is a suppressor, so I cant go barrel, suppressor, and then back to barrel.. I tried extending the suppressor but that's when it looked bad in my opinion. To save me from all of that and keep it about the size of a sidearm and not a carbine, I just kept it as the pistol.

    One more thing guys and galls....
    Don't look now, but if you go to the 405th home, you will see that there are robots online. There number was a little high so be careful and keep that m6 on your side ready... just in case they try anything fishy.

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