Halo 4 Spartan IV under armor and utility suit

Discussion in 'New Recruits' started by VividT E X, Nov 26, 2012.

  1. rainbow dash

    rainbow dash Well-Known Member

    something similar

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  2. DBmike

    DBmike Well-Known Member

    As a temporary undersuit, I used my wetsuit under the armour. It actually worked out ok and heat wasn't an issue. Just needing bathroom breaks :p
     
  3. rainbow dash

    rainbow dash Well-Known Member

  4. Morphine

    Morphine

    I'll pass ... that's something I'd see some wearing out clubbing, lol!

    Well, my bloody browser ate my post but I'll try post an update tonight when I get home. I've emailed McDavid to see if you can buy Hexpad Lite sheets/rolls.
     
  5. Pappa Midnight

    Pappa Midnight Jr Member

    Morphine would it be possible to get side, top, and bottom of this full body ( all pics taken from the same frame. also the hands and feet. Im going to model it for pep.
    Or even beter can you fileshare the video. Ive been tryining to get a pep file of this undersuit to try out a new method of sizing, peping, and creating it. i got a list of materials that i want to try (most from this thread) but i need a decent pep.
     
  6. colinmon22

    colinmon22 Member

    Just wondering though, what thickness? I'd imagine my 5:4 would get way too hot, but my 3:2 I figured might work. I'm nowhere near done with my armor, just planning ahead.
     
  7. DBmike

    DBmike Well-Known Member

    Oh hell erm off the top of my head can't remember the exact thickness but its pretty thick. It's a winter wetsuit, the sea round Cornwall gets almost freezing in winter and I can wear it in the sea and not feel the cold at all so it's fairly hefty! I can take a look at thickness if your interested. Just need to take a look when I'm home :)
     
  8. Morphine

    Morphine

    Sure thing, I'll see what I can do tonight. It probably won't be the exact frame as the one pictured, so I'll grab another front-on shot as the same frame as the side, top and bottom.

    I'll hopefully be able to post pics of the results of my foam piece gluing as well.
     
  9. VividT E X

    VividT E X Jr Member

    All right here it comes ... Guys ...I don't realy know what to do about all this crap -_- bots totaly just wreck my damned day...

    How come people find any plesure in destroying other's every parcelle of proudness, or even just doing what they ever do ? not that I realy want a debat on that, it was more rethorical than anythig xD Now sotp complaining Vivid :) !

    Life is great, nobody is cocky but now, should I report him to spase for harasing this thread ? Just end up that I talked to him today :)
     
  10. DBmike

    DBmike Well-Known Member

    Report it. One of the mods will deal with it then. It's not the first time anything like this had happened
     
  11. colinmon22

    colinmon22 Member

    Ok, perfect, thats encouraging. Your's is probably a 5:4 or thicker. I'd just heard that they're a bad idea for cons, I'll probably use my 3:2 just to be on the safe side. Its too thin to keep me warm in the summer even! Then again, the Monterey Bay isn't known for warm waters!

    I've been counting on using my wetsuit despite what what some people say about them. Now I'm just curious as to how to go about adding detail to one without ruining it.
     
  12. JetFireRR

    JetFireRR New Member

    Guess you could add the detail to the exterior using cut pieces from a donor suit or thin neoprene sheeting. Use the correct cement for attachment and the suit should remain quite usable in cool water conditions without sacrificing mobility nor structural integrity. 3:2 would be the best bet for prolonged indoor/all day use.

    2nd Monterey Bay being a bit chilly!
     
  13. DBmike

    DBmike Well-Known Member

    Probably the best idea would be to buy a cheap one and then use camping mat foam to add the detail. Just be sure to cut a hole in the crotch and install a zipper. The thing to remember with the suit and wetsuit is, once your in. Your in!
    Not quick to get it off again, so make sure you get bathroom breaks covered lol
     
  14. Morphine

    Morphine

    Alrighty, so I have finally uploaded some pics with some of the testing I've done in regards to foam and spandex.

    I first started cutting out little hexagon pieces of 8mm foam, not the EVA foam but like a camping mat, which is pretty spongey and not very rigid:

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    That little square piece of paper I was to try get a hexagon template going, but it's extremely hard not to wreck it if you keep cutting in the middle of it with the x-acto knife. I decided to just freehand little hexagons, measuring around 1cm in width (which is the approximate length of hexagon on the undersuit, I believe anyway). Due to the foam's spongeyness, I found it was easier to cut holding the knive horizontally (like cutting steak) than it was vertically in the template I did. They weren't exactly shaped hexagons, but they did the job for the test I was trying to achieve.

    For half of the hexagons, I cut them in half to make it approximately 4mm high, just to see if the depth of foam made a difference when stretching the foam around my body. I then glued all the hexagons in the pattern of the undersuit and attempted to space them 1mm apart from each other:

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    (Apologies for the glow, as I took the picture at night time)

    It was difficult to know how much glue to use so the foam was adequately stuck onto the spandex and would hold properly. Definitely messy work and trying to keep the hexagons close yet still 1mm apart was a challenge as the glue made the spandex surface slippery. The glue was also causing the spandex to stuck to my art mat, so I had to keep moving it without disturbing the hexagon's position.

    I then left the fabric on the washing line for the glue to cure (as per the foam glue's instructions) for 24 hours. It seemed to have worked! The glue definitely does provide enough give for the foam to remain stuck on the fabric. I did find that I used too much glue on the thicker 8mm foam bits than the 4mm foam bits, evident in the result shots below:

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    Thicker 8mm hex foam bits result

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    Thinner 4mm hex foam bits result

    I've stretched the spandex piece around my thigh just to show how it looks with the foam pressing from underneath and the bumpiness I'm trying to achieve. As you can see, there is excess glue that has come through to the surface, but it was only a test piece to see if the glue would hold the foam to the fabric properly.

    I think the thicker 8mm provides the bumpy texture a lot better than the 4mm pieces.

    I don't have a photo of it, but I have submerged the test piece and the foam bits to see if the foam comes off. This was to simulate a drink spillage or similar. Thankfully, the foam remains glued to the fabric even though the glue is water soluble. I might try keeping it in water a little longer for further research but the signs appear that this method is fit for use.

    Although it will be rather tedious and time consuming cutting out and gluing single hex foam pieces to the undersuit, I think the result will be quite rewarding. This in addition to sublimating the fabric with the rubber look (with the addition of scratches and weathering THIS PATTERN that I created is what I'll probably print) I think I'll manage to have a breathable, lightweight undersuit that is still convincing rather than wearing actual furnace-inducing rubber. At the end of the day, I'll probably have little hexagon marks on my skin from the foam pressing in, but it'll be worth it :)

    Let me know what people think and if you have any questions or want more pictures of the test piece.
     
  15. Morphine

    Morphine

    I've taken some screenshots and just need to transfer them to the PC but I've tried to get at least half of the body lined up vertically to then copy to the left/right side.
    I'll attempt to host them tonight and post the link up for you.

    I've still yet to receive any word from Blue Realm Studios (emailed them back in December) but have got word back from McDavids.
    Unfortunately the Hexpad doesn't come in sheets or rolls of fabric, so custom solutions is back on the board.
     
  16. furryfox

    furryfox New Member

  17. Morphine

    Morphine

    Thanks for your hard work on this Furryfox, much appreciated. I'm sure it will help some out there with an actual model to play with!

    As for the screenshots for Pappa Midnight, I haven't forgotten you! I do have them on USB but unfortunately my PC is currently sick (reformatted 4 times) so I haven't been able to extract them to upload. I'll be sure to let you know once they're hosted for you.

    I have dye sublimation prices for my spandex undersuit, so I'll be needing to create a bigger version of my "rubber texture" that I've already done (LINK HERE). This pic is only A4 size (22cmx18cm), I need to make the version I'm printing 220cmx120cm :)
     
  18. demo084

    demo084 Jr Member

    If going with a wet suit, I'd go with a 2 or 3mm. These are mainly designed for diving in tropical waters, or moderate temperature waters (65*F or higher). i've got a 5mm that I use in pools for teaching classes and I'm burning up out of the water. You could also integrate a cooling system like MEDENGs bomb suit undersuit. Basically thin walled tubing, combined with a battery powered water pump and a sealed bucket filled with ice water. It's also the same concept for thermal control of astranauts.
     
  19. Pappa Midnight

    Pappa Midnight Jr Member

    So can this file be turned into an OBj. or .Blend file if so this would be perfect. I could finish the feet myself.
     
  20. Pappa Midnight

    Pappa Midnight Jr Member

    Hey Morphine, do you also have any in game pics of a female undersuit. i figured that as long as I am puting together a Male suit I may as well put together a female version. we cant exclude the ladies. I believe that the diferences in details are small but i would still like to try and add them to them suit.?
     
  21. Pappa Midnight

    Pappa Midnight Jr Member

    Hey James a female version of the leisure suit would be awesome. I would like to model one and make it available for download.
     
  22. Morphine

    Morphine

    Hi PM,

    I don't have any in-game shots of the female undersuit. I'm not sure when I'll be able to get to organising this as I'm very busy doing the last touches to my prep work to start on my undersuit. I've had to reinstall my PC from scratch thanks to faulty hardware so it'll take some time to get back up to speed again.
     
  23. Runemaster117

    Runemaster117 New Member

  24. Pappa Midnight

    Pappa Midnight Jr Member

    thats cool man, It will probably be a whie before i get a male undersuit 3dmodel that i can use. so take your time. I know that i ask for the front back and side views a while back, but if those were female pics instead that would be awesome.
     
  25. Pappa Midnight

    Pappa Midnight Jr Member

    hey morpine i got the male pep file already done so forget the males. its time to show the famale members some love. I need the refernce images of the female undersuit so that I can get them over to Warlok to model while hes HOT.
     

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