I've been tempted to try shadowbane, I've honestly played tons of MMOs , eq, eq2, WoW, E&B, SWG, Eve, DAOC, Vanguard, Horizons, and more that just don't jump into my mind just yet, but every single one since eq (pre PoP) has been a disapointment save for vanguard... but people complained it was too hard and left/ the dev's dumbed the game down a lot so even that fails IMO... I just havn't found anything that felt like a real world as much as eq did.... The "better" games become with more convenient travel, minimaps vs geography, auto-trading npcs, and essentially linear raid patterns for OMGZ the best itam in teh game!shift!one! the more I feel like I'm playing a normal RPG.. I seriously wish I could find something to fill the gap left by eq... Even a trip to east commonlands to do trading felt like a heck of an adventure back then... bleh /rant off