1st Build New material alternative for under suits

[WatsonT]

Hello 405th this is my first thread I’ve ever done. But I thought this might help out some people. I just found a good alternative material for under suit waist sections. Don’t know if any one has tried this yet but it worked remarkably well. It’s 3d printed with Siraya Tech’s Flex TPU AIR foaming filament which drops the weight to 50%, the shore hardness from 95A of other TPUs to 65A and makes the print porous/breathable. It is a little pricey at $44/kg but well worth it. The whole waist sections weighs 800g, is very flexible, and comfortable. It also prints with a nice fine rough even finish. Printed in 44h on a elegoo orangestorm giga but can be printed on a cr-10/neptune 3 max like printer. Once the material is printed, it feels more like an EVA foam then a 3-D print. I have also attached a quick demo to show how flexible this material can be. Here is an Amazon link for the filament: Amazon.com: Siraya Tech Flex TPU Air - Lightweight Active Foaming Flexible 3D Filament, Adjustable Hardness 65A-82A, High-Speed Printing, Easy to Use, for Wearables, Sports Gear & Soft Prototypes (Black, 1kg) : Industrial & Scientific

 

[Benton188]

I have heard of this stuff from my one friend who's really big into printing. He was talking about it's flexibility and durability. Do you have the total on how many kgs it took to print the ab wrap?

 

[WatsonT]

I have heard of this stuff from my one friend who's really big into printing. He was talking about it's flexibility and durability. Do you have the total on how many kgs it took to print the ab wrap?

Only 800 grams

 

[Spartan J114]

That finish is actually super crazy! I have been working on a multi part abs wrap inspired heavily by pipninja However finding 4 way stretch pleather has been troublesome

 

[Dr Yeetsalot]

Hello 405th this is my first thread I’ve ever done. But I thought this might help out some people. I just found a good alternative material for under suit waist sections. Don’t know if any one has tried this yet but it worked remarkably well. It’s 3d printed with Siraya Tech’s Flex TPU AIR foaming filament which drops the weight to 50%, the shore hardness from 95A of other TPUs to 65A and makes the print porous/breathable. It is a little pricey at $44/kg but well worth it. The whole waist sections weighs 800g, is very flexible, and comfortable. It also prints with a nice fine rough even finish. Printed in 44h on a elegoo orangestorm giga but can be printed on a cr-10/neptune 3 max like printer. Once the material is printed, it feels more like an EVA foam then a 3-D print. I have also attached a quick demo to show how flexible this material can be. Here is an Amazon link for the filament: Amazon.com: Siraya Tech Flex TPU Air - Lightweight Active Foaming Flexible 3D Filament, Adjustable Hardness 65A-82A, High-Speed Printing, Easy to Use, for Wearables, Sports Gear & Soft Prototypes (Black, 1kg) : Industrial & Scientific

I’ve been lurking for a while but your post is what motivated me to finally register just so I could comment on how incredible this print turned out! It’s such a cool looking material and looks to be more comfortable and maybe even better looking than the silicone molded under suits. Any updates on it and how it’s holding up?

 

[WatsonT]

I’ve been lurking for a while but your post is what motivated me to finally register just so I could comment on how incredible this print turned out! It’s such a cool looking material and looks to be more comfortable and maybe even better looking than the silicone molded under suits. Any updates on it and how it’s holding up?

Thank you and welcome into the 405th. The material is actually really durable and is holding up really well. Is there anything specific you want to know?

 

[WatsonT]

I’ve been lurking for a while but your post is what motivated me to finally register just so I could comment on how incredible this print turned out! It’s such a cool looking material and looks to be more comfortable and maybe even better looking than the silicone molded under suits. Any updates on it and how it’s holding up?

This is what it looks like as of now I did some highlighting on the raised parts and cleaned it up some more.

 

[billeybob250]

that looks absolutely beautiful. What armor are you making? the wife and i were discussing me using this for my next MK 6 under suit in some places.

 

[WatsonT]

that looks absolutely beautiful. What armor are you making? the wife and i were discussing me using this for my next MK 6 under suit in some places.

MK 7. I would highly recommend using this material. Do you have a printer large enough for the model you want to print?

 

[billeybob250]

i currently have a P1S so i don't think it could do a full ab wrap in 1 part but i am looking for a large format printer.

 

[WatsonT]

i currently have a P1S so i don't think it could do a full ab wrap in 1 part but i am looking for a large format printer.

That’s a great printer but I would fear with the foaming nature of the material it would be difficult to join pieces together. As for printers you would be looking at a printer like a a elegoo Neptune 4 max or something of equal footprint.

 

[billeybob250]

ooo thats really cheap right now, is it a bed slinger or is it xy? it looks like a bed slinger and i am weary of those.

 

[WatsonT]

ooo thats really cheap right now, is it a bed slinger or is it xy? it looks like a bed slinger and i am weary of those.

It is a bed slinger but bed slingers have come a long way and have gotten a lot better. I understand your concern though but a lot of the quality issues can be greatly reduced by slowing down the printer. I have/had Many printers, including the Elegoo Neptune 3 max bambu lab A1, and the giant core xy printer orangestorm giga which I printed mine on. To find a printer that is a core xy that has a >400mm^2 area built plate on it you are going to be spending some money. Also you already have a good printer another large format printer is not going to replace it, it is to give you larger capability for a few prints that require it.

 

[Thx4theFalcon]

Hello 405th this is my first thread I’ve ever done. But I thought this might help out some people. I just found a good alternative material for under suit waist sections. Don’t know if any one has tried this yet but it worked remarkably well. It’s 3d printed with Siraya Tech’s Flex TPU AIR foaming filament which drops the weight to 50%, the shore hardness from 95A of other TPUs to 65A and makes the print porous/breathable. It is a little pricey at $44/kg but well worth it. The whole waist sections weighs 800g, is very flexible, and comfortable. It also prints with a nice fine rough even finish. Printed in 44h on a elegoo orangestorm giga but can be printed on a cr-10/neptune 3 max like printer. Once the material is printed, it feels more like an EVA foam then a 3-D print. I have also attached a quick demo to show how flexible this material can be. Here is an Amazon link for the filament: Amazon.com: Siraya Tech Flex TPU Air - Lightweight Active Foaming Flexible 3D Filament, Adjustable Hardness 65A-82A, High-Speed Printing, Easy to Use, for Wearables, Sports Gear & Soft Prototypes (Black, 1kg) : Industrial & Scientific

WatsonT; would you share the print profile you used for the orangestorm giga; though I don't have this printer, a lot of it is the same as my SV06 ACE and I have a roll coming tomorrow! Thanks

 

[WatsonT]

WatsonT; would you share the print profile you used for the orangestorm giga; though I don't have this printer, a lot of it is the same as my SV06 ACE and I have a roll coming tomorrow! Thanks

The best thing to do would be to modify the TPU profile for your printer. Also it depends on how dense and flexible you want the part to be. But these are the setting I modified:
Printing temp: 270C
Nozzle size: 0.6mm (prevents clogging)
Flow ratio: .55 (extra flow of .05)
Print speed: 100mm/s

 

[Thx4theFalcon]

The best thing to do would be to modify the TPU profile for your printer. Also it depends on how dense and flexible you want the part to be. But these are the setting I modified:
Printing temp: 270C
Nozzle size: 0.6mm (prevents clogging)
Flow ratio: .55 (extra flow of .05)
Print speed: 100mm/s

I will be testing it, regardless, I was just looking for a starting point as ST doesn't have anything set up (that I could find). Thank you very much!

 

[Drim]

This is a wonderful material isnt it? I am also currently working with this and looking at practical application for parts beyond the undersuit.