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Great work so far. keep it up!

On your gas mask, the M40 is an NBC mask and the canisters are rated to provide respiratory, eye and face protection against chemical and biological agents, radioactive fallout particles, and battlefield contaminants.



From Wikipedia: The C2 canister on the M40 mask can protect the user from up to 15 nerve, choking, and blister agent attacks, and two blood agent attacks. However, the original C2 canister contains a radioactive source (Chromium 63) that has prompted the U.S. Army to replace it with a newer, non-radioactive alternative. Original C2 canisters are colored black; the newer, non-radioactive canisters are colored dark green.



I can't see resin fumes and fiberglass dust being more potent that some yummy nerve gas and tasty blister agent. But I would still recomend purchasing a respirator from Lowes or Home Depot for around $30 when you can afford it. Just because they are more comfortable and easier to see with. But that's just me, if your happy with your mask by all means keep using it.



A few suggestions for the inside of your helmet: You can wash it out with water to get the dust out. Just make sure that you let it dry out before you put anything else inside. You can get some Alumilite or some brand of urethane rubber and slush it around on the inside untill you get a nice somewhat smooth surface and then continue from there. Alumilite comes in a nice black and you can get it from any hobby or craft store (like Michaels or Hobby Lobby).



Hope some of this will help you out. Can't wait to see more pics.
 
JEDI THERON said:
Great work so far. keep it up!

On your gas mask, the M40 is an NBC mask and the canisters are rated to provide respiratory, eye and face protection against chemical and biological agents, radioactive fallout particles, and battlefield contaminants.







I can't see resin fumes and fiberglass dust being more potent that some yummy nerve gas and tasty blister agent. But I would still recomend purchasing a respirator from Lowes or Home Depot for around $30 when you can afford it. Just because they are more comfortable and easier to see with. But that's just me, if your happy with your mask by all means keep using it.



A few suggestions for the inside of your helmet: You can wash it out with water to get the dust out. Just make sure that you let it dry out before you put anything else inside. You can get some Alumilite or some brand of urethane rubber and slush it around on the inside untill you get a nice somewhat smooth surface and then continue from there. Alumilite comes in a nice black and you can get it from any hobby or craft store (like Michaels or Hobby Lobby).



Hope some of this will help you out. Can't wait to see more pics.





Ah, I definitely know what you mean by comfort. That rubber seal is not fun in this hot weather. Rubber seal gas mask + coveralls + gloves = not fun. But at least the weather means everything else dries up a little faster. I'm always glad when I'm doing something non-vapory, like sanding, because then I can just use a little particle mask and goggles.



I tried all day to get some urethane rubber, but none of the hobby stores around here have it. I've come to the conclusion that the Micahel's in my area is made of fail and uselessness. I'll try shopping around for it more later, for now I'm trying to get the outside done. Worse comes to worse, as at temp fix I'll just toss some foam in there until I can order some online.



I rushed horribly fast to finish up the details in an attempt to see if I can get this done by next wednesday. Yeah...rushing's probably not great, but as I mentioned earlier, this is just a temporary, experiment around helmet. Eventually I'l redo a more detailed, better quality one. For now...just trying to get something that looks decent and is recognizeable as the ODST. I can see a couple of little things I want to fix up already, but anyways...pics!



Un-painted

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Light coat of primer

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Some information on the detailing:



I had a really thing layer of bondo. I may want to change that next time and got a little heavier so I have more room to play with when digging around, as well as improve my laying of fiberglass. I broke through the paper in a few small places and had to patch them up, which was fun.



The lines were carved in with a little file and occasionally with a dremel. They're not too deep though, so I usually stuck with a file, and hopefully a good paint job will help keep them noticeable (come on black wash...). Same goes for the vents.



I used some weather stripping to add a little flair to the back of the helmet.



The thing I'm most happy about is the little "beak" chin-cup dealio. No fancy little tools there. Just dumped on a glob of bondo, molded it a bit, and sanded until it was just the right shape. I think it came out great.



The same can't be said for the ear parts. I pretty much can't recreate the way they look on the game ODST properly because of the way I made the helmet. Oh well.



I decided to go ahead and leave a lot of the little dings and whatnot. I just made sure not to leave anything too blatantly obvious. Things that could appear to be normal wear and tear I just left. Like I said, not a showpiece helmet, just a practice/play one. Overall I'm pretty happy with it.



I need to drill a hole in the little side nub thingy (nice technical terminology here) and probably resand a few small areas.



I actually kind of like the black/red look that somehow came out...even though it's just primer + US Postal Service cardboard/spot putty. I may keep it in mind for the final paint job.



In other news, holy jesus I looked at my bank account. 0o They better give me some more hours at work soon.



Fun Fact of the Night: The helmet stand is two wheels I stole off a little kids plastic wagon.



Okay, didn't steal. I found it discarded and they were broken off already anyways.
 
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Dude, even for just a quicky helm, this thing is looking really nice. And from the picture it may be a perfect fit lol, good job!



And I have done the exact same thing as your chest piece, forgot to check and make sure the different makers used the same size... man, had a really tiny CQB helm lol.
 
Thanks again for the compliments, and best of luck to all of you working on your own ODSTs!



PsHWilliam043 said:
Dude, even for just a quicky helm, this thing is looking really nice. And from the picture it may be a perfect fit lol, good job!



And I have done the exact same thing as your chest piece, forgot to check and make sure the different makers used the same size... man, had a really tiny CQB helm lol.



Yep, I got really lucky with the helmet.



Maybe I'll run in to someone just slightly smaller than me who's interested in making armor...then they can have free pre-pepped pieces.=P



jjb479 said:
Damn man that's one sexy bucket! I hope mine looks like that.



I hope yours looks better! I'm sure you can easily surpass my helm. Just take your time, and give it that extra bit of TLC. Like I said, this is a rush job. Lots of little imperfections if you look close up, and not terribly game accurate since I used a WETA ODST helmet as a base and basically was trying to make it resemble the new one a little bit more. Oh well. It's recognizeable as the ODST, and I might even be able to get a fascimile of the ODST visor with a little work, which would be a LOT nicer.



I've been playing around with "mud" (resin+bondo mix) and it's working out great for the chest piece. It's a lot easier to get a nice, smooth finish, with far less work than straight bondo. I'm going to be using it a lot more heavily in the future, though I still have to perfect the technique. I screwed up and didn't make sure the surface was completely flat for one side, so I'll have to do some extra sanding. Also, I seem to always end up with leftover mud, so I should probably conserve a bit and save my money.



Anyways, for those of you making your own ODSTs, I highly recommend you take a look at Sigma's "Muddy Secrets" tutorial in the pepakura forum and give it a try on a piece with relatively flat angles (such as the shoulder). I mean, I know we just met, but I think I'm in love with this technique. It's going to save a lot of time down the line.
 
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Well, did the primer yesterday, and I just knocked out the base coats and other colors today. Tomorrow will be black wash/weathering. Anyways, some pics:



My reject experiment with mud. Still an awesome technique though. And yes, my workstation is disgusting...I'm going to have to do a nice cleanup on tuesday.



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Saturday was spent priming, drying, sanding, washing, and repeating two more times:



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And today I sprayed on a few coats of grey in the morning. Yeah, I didn't get a particularly good covering...but I was getting worried about putting on way too much paint. It's what I get for having this be a rush job and not sanding out all the imperfections beforehand. Spent some time out at a barbeque, then came back and added in the black/red parts. I was originally thinking an oxford blue, but I just liked the aggressive look that red brings out. Too bad I didn't go with a darker shade of grey, eh? It's not in these pictures, but I actually went back and painted the little bumps on the cheek black/red. I think it adds a little flair to an otherwise bland looking area of the helmet without looking very gaudy.



I'm actually tempted to paint the chin-piece/beak. Any thoughts? Actually I think I'll go and mock it up in PS3...probably will leave it just for simplicity though.



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Some lessons learned:

Sanding helps a ton. The areas I spent sanding down with...I think I went as high as 800 grit looked a lot nicer.

That being said, some of the makeshift things I used suck, specifically because they can't be sanded too much without risking damage(cardboard...the pep model itself). Next helmet I use I'm going to be using a lot more bondo/mud so that I have more material to play with when sanding and detailing. Plus the cardboard stands out a lot compared to the smoother bondo areas.

Not having the painters tape down perfect just makes more work later when you accidently get a little bit of red leak through on to your grey...

(Also, I hate admitting this, but I've already admitted lots of stupid little mistakes so....check what color spray paint you have in your hand before you press the button! I swear to god that was where I left my red...but it turned out to be my black. That was fun cleaning up especially since I'm trying to get this done before wednesday so I can't just let it dry and repaint. :sleep )



Anyways, almost there!



And finally, the visor I'm working on. I'm going to try and actually recreate the little curve and whatnot. The cardstock mockup looks good. I just took the visor off Rundown's model and scaled it to the WETA helmet.

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Update:



Test shots of visor. Scored the plastic, but it eventually started to come apart because I was fiddling around with it too much, so I ended up using some hot glue to keep it in place while giving me some play. It came out okay since most of the glue is where the little dip area is.



No nifty little middle part rectangle part though. Going to have to settle for just being dual-layered or whatnot. Still, nicer than a simple flat visor.\



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The helmet looks great, man! Keep up your awesome work. ;)



One Q: Did you use a Motor cycle visor, or some other plastic for the Visor?
 
S1l3nt V1p3r said:
The helmet looks great, man! Keep up your awesome work. ;)



One Q: Did you use a Motor cycle visor, or some other plastic for the Visor?



The plastic was from a sun-visor. =P Just grabbing items around the house now.



I'm going to a convention in two days. Originally I was just going to toss the helmet on top of a commissioned suit that I got made, but right now I think I could build a quick suit of ODST armor...won't be the most accurate or highest quality, but it should look recognizeable and pretty decent considering the amount of time I'm going to be putting in to it (less than 48 hours!) I've got a little assembly line going in my backyard. Fun.
 
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looking pretty good there mate! but for the helmet... I forget was it always scaled at 5'11, or does one have to screw around with the scaling for it to be that size?
 
Sierra 720 said:
looking pretty good there mate! but for the helmet... I forget was it always scaled at 5'11, or does one have to screw around with the scaling for it to be that size?



I believe the file is scaled for 5'11 people as soon as you open it. It was for my build and i have the latest file.
 
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I'm having trouble deciding on ODST files. mkVI peps usually come in packs that are all scaled the same, but here's my problem:



I'm using the weta helmet and nightshade's sniper goggles, shoulders, and sniper plates, as well as belakor's torso packs...what should I do for legs and boots?! Some scaling help would also be appreciated, since I'm using three (possibly four once i find the legs) different modellers' stuff...AND i have pep 3, so scaling's a pain anyway.



On topic: Your helmet's looking great. Good luck with your 48-hour suit xD
 
yccars said:
I'm having trouble deciding on ODST files. mkVI peps usually come in packs that are all scaled the same, but here's my problem:



I'm using the weta helmet and nightshade's sniper goggles, shoulders, and sniper plates, as well as belakor's torso packs...what should I do for legs and boots?! Some scaling help would also be appreciated, since I'm using three (possibly four once i find the legs) different modellers' stuff...AND i have pep 3, so scaling's a pain anyway.



On topic: Your helmet's looking great. Good luck with your 48-hour suit xD



Woo, another person mixing and matching. =P



For nightshade's shoulders, you should download Ral Partha's unfold so that the shoulders/sniper plates are scaled together instead of separately for a better fit. There's some info on this and some comments on scaling on the 405th review section:

405th Shoulder/Sniper Pep review



For scaling there's also a person that wrote in the thread:

I finished these a few days ago just havent had time to upload this pic, I didnt see anyone post sizing on this but I've made 3 of these already the first I didnt even finish because it was to small Id say that 350mm should be a good size the 400mm is just a little to big for me and I'm 6'if that helps anyone.

Image of Shoulder Plates



I haven't made the shoulder plates myself yet though, so I can't be much help at the moment.



The boots, if you're using the WETA ODST ones located alongside Belakor's chest/pouches, should be based on the same 5'11 scale.



As for the goggles..I got nothin man. Good luck with those!



Here are some pics up later of my temporary ODST costume for a con (Anime Expo in Anaheim/LA area). Not going to win many accuracy and polish awards...but I'll also have a master chief with me, so it's okay. =P My friend bought one of the official licensed suits and has been modding it to be more comfortable and better looking.



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There's a few more close-up pictures on my flickr that I don't have time to properly format for the forums.



I'll go over the little rush jobs, inaccuracies, whatnot later on tonight. For now...got to hit up wal-mart for some D-ring/straps, Toys R Us to see if I can grab a plasma blaster, and then back to painting.



Remember guys, KEEP IT CLEAN! 0.0
 
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Oh the joys of being a packrat! Finally storing so much useless stuff came in useful because I was able to dig up enough bits and pieces to finish everything up...now to write a little bit here, then go sleep...no wait. Write a little bit here, go clean up the mess I made downstairs, actually pack for the trip itself, double check I didn't forget anything, grab gas, pick up the carpool (hope to god she actually plans to contribute for gas...), and hit the road by 6am. Oh joy, 4 hours to go. Thank god for whoever invented energy drinks.



Anyways, pictures! And some details on the little bits and pieces I have.

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I wanted to find a plunger to hold up, but I didn't want to figure out the logistics of taking a picture of myself while using both hands to hold a cleaning device and give a thumbs up...so I went with some scrubbing bubbles. Because crazy as I am, and stupid as I am, I do not want to put a plunger on top of my sink.



Anyways, first the helmet! It kicked off this thread, and thanks to the updated forums, a status update on it will forever be the footnote to my thread title. The pep job wasn't the greatest. I think I may switch to super glue for the next attempt because sometimes when I put too much hot glue on, the bulges shift around the position of the paper, which seems fine initially but screws me over about 100+ little tabs in. There's some slight warpage which you can notice if you spend time staring at the helmet (which I do), but hopefully if you're busy staring at my flashy racing stripe you won't. Remember, red makes you go faster.



There's a lot of imperfections in the bondo. At first I thought maybe I wasn't mixing it right and getting a lot of air bubbles because of that. Actually the answer was much simpler. For all you new people....INVEST IN A PLASTIC SPREADER. The shoulders and chest piece, which I'll get to later, benefited greatly from the plastic spreader's smooth benevolence. It really cut down the amount of work. So out of necessity, everything has a nice worn "battle damage" look.



Painting...as I said before, take your time. If you go fast, like me, you'll screw up, again like me, and waste time trying to fix it which is often harder and more time consuming.



The visor...it looks okay, but it is hanging on by a thread made up of much melted glue. I'm definitely going to have to pack an emergency repair kit with me. The theory of making it was simple enough, like I believe Pooper did, I simply scored a piece of plastic and did plastic pepakura, only I used a resized version of the visor from Rundown's game ODST helmet instead of the WETA one. Unfortunately after being under so much stress the plastic decided, to heck with you, I'm not just bending I'm going to go ahead and snap. So if you look closely you can see black-painted glue on the seams holding it together. It also does not like to stay attached to the inside of the helmet...again, it's barely hanging in there, and again...I hope the flahsy racing stripe keeps people from noticing.



The chest piece...I like this actually. I think it came out very well for a quick pep to finish time. I pepped it while at a dinner (yeah, I got some weird looks, but I only knew a few people there and I still got my share of free food). I tried playing around with the mud technique, which was nice. Then one night I figured I could finish the whole suit before Anime Expo...and I started bondoing and sanding in the middle of the night. That's around the time my sleep schedule went kaput.



It's got a couple of imperfections, and the edges are definitely janky.



But oh, do I love the paint job.



Another issue is a light warpage. The sides bow more forward than they should. I had the right idea initially...I glued in cardboard supports to keep them pulled back, but I removed them too early after putting in fiberglass and when I came back the next day it was hardened in the state it was. Again, like the helmet, the awesome flashy paint will distract the unattentive.



I wanted to put the really faded and hard to see UNSC eagle and random chinese symbol (I would have used my surname) on the wings, but the complexity of the eagle led me to say "Nuts to this, maybe when I can do stickers/water transfer" and stay happy with some writing and a good 'ol Superintendent face. I didn't go with the red because I didn't want him to disappear, and I didn't go with green because I didn't want to look like a friggin Christmas tree



The little metal pieces on top of the chest piece are actually two folded up belts. I think there might be a few other marines out here...so those are my old marine MCMAP belts. I was annoyed because I couldn't find anything to make metal pieces of. I was about to go cut up some popsicle sticks and paint them metal, but then as I was doing another rat-search of my mountain of stuff, I came across these two puppies. I didn't want to destroy them, so I just duct taped them up and stuck them on the inside of the chest piece. They make a great little raised base to stick some industrial strength velcro on. There's some gaffer's tape stuck through them to imitate like they're holding up the chest piece, but they really just lead to nowhere, like when my GPS tells me to go to Watsonville. It's all a lie.



The middle stomach piece was pepped, then instead of pepping the little circle in the middle, I found an empty tube of some junk someone used in the shower, liberate the cap, and put it into the service of the UNSC. It fits pretty well I'd say. Resined, fiberglassed, then painted right on the pep. No bondo on this one.



Side equipment plates. In case you can't tell..no, I didn't make them. I just spray painted two 2x40mm HE grenade puches. Packrat story time! I literally got a garbage bag full of these. My unit was disbanding and the supply guys were tossing out old gear they didn't need. I stopped one of them and said I would take it to the dumpster for them, with a giant cheese eating grin on my face. And he said, as long as no one saw me take it to the "dumpster" it was fine. So I threw it in the garbage pit that is my car (which reminds me I should probably clean it out...) and now if I need pouches of any color for a suit, I just spray paint these useless suckers.



All of this stuff is attached to a replica bulletproof vest modeled after the stuff you see the SEAL team in the Black Hawk Down movie using, or the one I'm wearing in my Half-Life Opposing Force costume, which is what I bought it for. I picked it because I didn't want to paint an interceptor vest and it has a huge thing of velcro on the front. So I attached a few more to key places and everything now magically sticks! I hope I never have to walk through a field of burrs anytime soon though.



Other webbing: I'm wearing a russian RD-54 paratrooper harness which I spray painted black (they're normally only available in a brown canvas or a nylon flora pattern, I have the latter). This was bought for an impression of the Metal Gear Solid 2 gurlukovich/spetsnaz mercenaries. I originally picked it for this outfit for a few reasons:

1) I thought I could maybe use the chest-strap it has as an attachment point. Now it just gets in the way, but oh well.

2) Extra pouches on the waist! They're black, but it adds more visual clutter to distract from stuff I don't have. I can't paint them grey because I still need to use this for my Metal Gear cosplay.

3) Backpack: Distract form my otherwise empty back area.

4) The only other black web gear I had was stolen a couple years ago out of the trunk of my friend's car and I'm cheap.



Attached to the shoulder are two pads that are meant to go on the slings of SAW machine guns. I happened to dig up two of them (again, packrat)...and I like the slightly bulkier look it gives.



Undersuit: Black flightsuit (imitation, not nomex or anything fancy) a friend used for working on cars and airsoft.



Belt buckle: It's a piece of cardboard with another piece of cardboard on top of it to cover up the belt itself. I figured it pretty much looked like a fancy belt buckle...so that's what I went with. I cut out two pieces of cardboard, bent one of them so it created a small gap for the belt, hot glued on some tagboard to remove the cardboard texture, and cut out two tiny holes for the belt to slip through. The belt itself is a $30 military rigger's belt which I bought by accident because I didn't look at the price and thought it was just another belt. I did use it to almost reach the top of half dome...now I'm rambling. Anyways, it looks fancy, not like a regular belt, and it fits perfect. Dolled the front up to look metallic, and left the back alone...because the darn thing's pressed up against my stomach anyways.



Grenades: They don't look game accurate at all. I just grabbed cylindrical things and played with them. The end result was a Safeway-Refresh water bottle with the top cut off and the caps of empty Rustoleum black-primer caps glued on the top. I put a little red square inaccurately on it. Oh well. Again, visual distractions. I'm also amused how it says to "squeeze and pull" on the top of them. I started to sand the tops flat by instinct then realized it was kind of fitting for a grenade.



Codpiece: Two pieces of cardboard glued together, and the little canvas bag that comes with M249 SAW ammo cut up, glued around it, and spray painted. It looked really sad just dangling there though, so I dug through everything I could to find some D-ring like material I could snag without having to cut anything up, and I finally found an old SAW sling that was already chopped up. Off go the little sliding thingies, on goes some gaffers tape, and then I curse at myself later for not measuring twice and cutting once. I have to cut twice a lot in case you can't tell.



Legs: Baseball catcher's pads, $35 from Big5. Sanded down, painted to look worn. The right leg has two single-40mm HE grenade pouches on them. Unfortunately not nearly the size of the pouches the Rookie and other ODSTs sport, but didn't want to waste more 2x pouches. Like I said, I'm cheap. If I had the time, I would have used some bondo to make the shape of the leg guards more square. The spherical shape conflicts with the boxyness of everything else. Oh well.



Boots: Okay, nobody cares about boots, but I just want to say Oakley boots are awesomely comfortable. A million times better than old GI issue jungle boots.



Shoulders. Being too lazy to pep anything, I took some measurements of the simpler Halo3/WETA ODST shoulders, cut out some cardboard, glued it together, reinforced with some fiberglass, and bondoed some simple flat surfaces. The two pieces are attached by gaffer's tape (which I can already tell I have to reinforce). There's some velcro on the shoulders of the flightsuit, and that's what's holding the plates in place. I'm going to have to reinforce the velcro on the flightsuit because it really doesn't like staying there.



I ran in to some issues with the speed at which I was painting. There was too much paint so whenever I tried to paint the white blood-type patch it would start to crack. I ended up sanding down that area, prime, sand, prime, sand, and finally it stayed a nice white. Drew the stuff on with a gel pen.



Forearms: Wilson-brand adult shin guards which must either be mislabeled or the good people at Wilson must live in a land of midgets. Fits perfect on my forearm though. I got some 2mm fun foam from Wal Mart and used some velcro so it all fits nice and tight. I would have liked something thicker and with something on top of the foam, but didn't want to waste too much time shopping. I tried to add a light urban camo pattern to the arms, but without something over it, the foam really doesn't like keeping colors. Everything just kind of fades away. Darn shame, and too lazy to deal with it right now. It looks better than a bare arm and I'm just happy for that. Oh yeah, and for the camo pattern I used old leftover pieces of pep-paper.



Rifle: Good 'ol plasma blaster. Easiest route to go. It's painted painfully bright white to comply with weapon-prop guidelines for the convention. Figured it was pointless to make a nice looking prop weapon if I had to paint it a hideous color. In the future I'll keep a SPANKR or Spartan Laser around to circumvent replica gun rules hopefully.



Things I didn't make:



Butt plate: I wanted to make this since it's pretty unique looking...I even started. But in the end I just didn't have the time to make a new piece.

Hip plates: These would be nice, but if I can throw enough visual clutter on my waste, they shouldn't be too missed.

Thigh plates: Now these I would like, since they're camouflaged. Right now that area looks very bland, but the rest of the suit I think looks good enough to not suffer. One idea I had was to wear camo pants and a black underarmor top. Unfortunately the only grey-ish camo I have is urban, which has too much bright-white for my taste. If only I had some ACU pants.



Hm...perhaps I should have gotten some fun foam, shaped it, camo painted it, and velcroed it to the suit? Oh well. I may just strap some pouches to the legs to add some visual clutter. Maybe velcro a shotgun pouch with some shells showing.



ToDo list for any free time I have tomorrow:

Reinforce Various areas

Fix velcro on shoulders

Align codpiece brackets

Improve "O+" in shoulder

Paint "ODST" tag for back like in WETA uniform



"Every Breath You Take" is a creepy song. Yay for Pandora radio. And now the original "My Prerogative" is playing.



Anyways, that's my stuff. I'll try and take more detailed pictures of it before I destroy it at the convention. And yes, I'm sneaking a picture of my dog in also. She kept trying to hang around me while I worked, which is very sweet, but until they make doggie respirators, is also a big no-no.



Oh joy, this is going to be fun to wear in LA...4th of July weekend. I must hate myself. Can't be worse than real body armor in Iraq right? But I wasn't stupid enough to wear all black there.



Also, I never put in nice vents in the helmet...yay.

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Armor,

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Armor,

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Lamesauce MA5 clone,

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OBEY MY DOG,

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Ghetto grenades and....

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KEEP IT CLEAN
 
holy cow :D neat suit man. First one ive seen so fully finished yet.

I say put up a vid so whe can see it in full glory!
 
Looks good for a quick job. Like I said earlier........when you sit down and take your time I know you can make one sweet set of armor. Bring us back lots of pics from your trip :lol
 
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