Truck Bed Liner On Pep

[mwege441]

I purchased Plasti-Cote brand spray on truck bed liner and applied it to the front of a pepped chest piece. And here is the info i wanted to put out for anyone looking to use this method, at least what happened to me.

Well after about 2 coats my pieces started coming apart. I used hot glue and a few pieces came un-glued. It did make it A TAD more rigid however, it gave an awesome feel and texture to the part. Really a metal/bulletproof/kevlar look. So anyways, just saying if you are planning on using this to harden your pepakura model, I would not recommend it using truck bed liner, maybe its just this brand, who knows. I will be using it however, after the pieces are fiberglassed and ready for paint. I will post a pic after the glass hardens.

 

[DreadMullet]

i forget who the member was, but he used the truck bed liner with the hot glue method and it turned out nice.

i had also tried the bed liner and didnt care for it, but it did have a nice texture.

 

[Ral Partha]

i forget who the member was, but he used the truck bed liner with the hot glue method and it turned out nice.

It was Crossfire:

http://405th.com/forums/index.php?showtopi...t=0&start=0

 

[Overlord Ian]

I tried it, it works just fine and gives your piece a cool texture.

 

[mwege441]

I tried it, it works just fine and gives your piece a cool texture.

Did you spray it without doing anything else, just directly to the paper without resin or anything? Because mine was just all paper and it didnt work so great. Oh and did you use plasti-cote or the duplicolor kind?

And does this look right?

 

[Overlord Ian]

Did you spray it without doing anything else, just directly to the paper without resin or anything? Because mine was just all paper and it didnt work so great. Oh and did you use plasti-cote or the duplicolor kind?

It was duplicolor (I think) either way, I put 4-5 coats on it, and it was just as strong as if I had used fiberlass. and looks like thats just a thin coat by looking at your pic, but maybe thats just the camera..

 

[mwege441]

It was duplicolor (I think) either way, I put 4-5 coats on it, and it was just as strong as if I had used fiberlass. and looks like thats just a thin coat by looking at your pic, but maybe thats just the camera..

Oh man. Well yea i didnt spray it too much about 2 light coats because i got frustrated with it coming unglued. You can still see bits of white from the paper behind parts where i sprayed. Did you mist it on or just like sprayed it kinda thickish?

 

[drgon47]

Spraying anything out of a can, you must treat the can like a brush. start spraying just before you pass over the piece, do a light coat, and then repeat till finished. Takes a bit longer, but looks, and holds up much better. Less chances of chipping/flaking/running.

 

[Overlord Ian]

Oh man. Well yea i didnt spray it too much about 2 light coats because i got frustrated with it coming unglued. You can still see bits of white from the paper behind parts where i sprayed. Did you mist it on or just like sprayed it kinda thickish?

Just average coats, just like you would with paint I would personally reccomend you continue what youve been doing and keep making thin coats, I had a few drips on mine, and they were hard to sand off

 

[mwege441]

Just average coats, just like you would with paint I would personally reccomend you continue what youve been doing and keep making thin coats, I had a few drips on mine, and they were hard to sand off

alright i have a piece i can test with, which i should have done initially. thanks.

 

[JEDI THERON]

I may try this on my ODST helmet. Keep adding pics as you go.

 

[BFDesigns]

Yeah, the Duplicolor brand is the way to go, 3-4 coats on the outside is comparable to 2 coats of resin. It didn't do anything to the seams at all and hardens almost immediately so it's a great way to fix warpage too!

I have since put an extra coat of resin over the top, it wasn't needed but I wanted a bit of extra strength to go with the part, this stuff seems to interfere with the MEKP catalyst for the resin though as I had to put the helm in my oven to help it cure. Although I may have mixed a tad wrong (doubtful but it can happen even to an experienced resiner such as myself ). This stuff does not react well to high heat environments so keep that in mind. At about 125°F-150°F it will start to blister a bit; not a problem because bondo is gonna get used over the top of it, but something to keep in mind.

 

[mwege441]

Yeah, the Duplicolor brand is the way to go, 3-4 coats on the outside is comparable to 2 coats of resin. It didn't do anything to the seams at all and hardens almost immediately so it's a great way to fix warpage too!

I have since put an extra coat of resin over the top, it wasn't needed but I wanted a bit of extra strength to go with the part, this stuff seems to interfere with the MEKP catalyst for the resin though as I had to put the helm in my oven to help it cure. Although I may have mixed a tad wrong (doubtful but it can happen even to an experienced resiner such as myself ). This stuff does not react well to high heat environments so keep that in mind. At about 125°F-150°F it will start to blister a bit; not a problem because bondo is gonna get used over the top of it, but something to keep in mind.

Wow great piece you have there! You actually inspired me to use this stuff after viewing your thread about this helm. But dang, I shouldn't have been so cheap and spent the extra dollar for the Duplicolor brand ha. Well before i go and buy another can i think i will play around with a test piece. Its interesting to hear you can fix warpage...

One more question i guess i can ask is, where did you spray it? The brand I bought was really high pressure and came out really fast which made it hard to coat evently. i had to build a spray frame which hung the piece to avoid overspray into the grass/etc instead of the normal, lay some cardboard down and paint it method.

 

[CPU64]

High pressure?
I hope you didn't get Undercoating. That stuff takes forever to dry and its basically tar in a can.
Just an FYI, the plastikote will peel off if it isn't thick. Its not meant to make anything "stronger" but it could make your pep more water proof.
Doesn't take pain very well either. I used it on my proton pack gun grips and it always rubs out.

 

[BFDesigns]

One more question i guess i can ask is, where did you spray it? The brand I bought was really high pressure and came out really fast which made it hard to coat evently. i had to build a spray frame which hung the piece to avoid overspray into the grass/etc instead of the normal, lay some cardboard down and paint it method.

The Duplicolor brand says to spray the bed liner 6-10 inches away from what you're spraying. Closer than a normal can of spraypaint. What I did was wear a latex glove and hold the piece and spray that way so that it was closer to me. Basically you do what was said before, work back and forth and try to go from the middle outwards. Overspray isn't really a problem with this stuff if you're holding it while your spraying (about chest height). Just make sure that you spray with the wind at your back, and WEAR A RESPIRATOR as the ketones in the Duplicolor brand will give you a massive headache if you're not protected, even with the wind blowing in your favor. I can put a tutorial video on how to spray this stuff if you want.

 

[mwege441]

High pressure?
I hope you didn't get Undercoating. That stuff takes forever to dry and its basically tar in a can.
Just an FYI, the plastikote will peel off if it isn't thick. Its not meant to make anything "stronger" but it could make your pep more water proof.
Doesn't take pain very well either. I used it on my proton pack gun grips and it always rubs out.

No its definately truck bed liner but yea..im not going to use this brand its just giving me problems. And it did peel off a few places so i decided to try to salvage the piece by sanding it and putting a thin layer of bondo on top. Perhaps some day i will buy the right stuff For now I have to deal with this...

As far as the tut goes its completely up to you man i figured it out this morning but im sure it would be useful for anyone wanting to try this method.

Lesson learned: Plasti-Cote truck bed liner + Pep = Bad Idea

 

[bobbio555]

does anything at this location seem about right?
http://www.canadiantire.ca/search/search_r...408474396672077
I pretty much only have access to 3 hardware stores, and canadian tyire is the best of the 3, so if they don't have it, I'm screwed