ODST Medic

[cmJackal09]

Following Doctor Napkin's idea, i will be constructing an ODST Medic. Im at a loss for ideas right now, I was planning on just constructing a basic ODST suit and making modifications as i see fit. I was thinking on making a Halo:Reach Trauma kit utility. Any other ideas?

 

[Toacrabman]

Definately a backpack or something. It would have the big red winged staff emblem on it. (the one on the medic marines in reach). It would also be funny to add the UA helmet attachment from reach and put it on there too. The secondary color would make sense to be white, for the chestpiece and forearms to be white. This actually sounds like a good build idea. Ive basically always been a medic in videogames, besides being a jack of all trades between every class, since the revive feature in Cod5 WaW.

 

[cmJackal09]

I was thinking of stardard steel or silver colored armor with a bright red strip on the helmet and at all the detail points. I was thinking of putting the surgeon emblem (the winged one) on the center of the chestpiece and a simple red cross on each of the shoulders. i guess id carry some dort of backpack(No clue what to do for that) and put some reach health packs or some odst health packs in it.

 

[xBeaver Feaver]

With the exception of the accessories that you would carry, I dont immagine there would be too many differences between a standard and medic ODST. An emblem or colour scheme to identify you as a medic would be the only differences. The basic armour design I feel would be left untouched.

Im looking forward to see this project develop as I am considering a Snow Trooper themed ODST build for my current ODST project.

Good luck.

 

[kenster1000]

I really agree with xBeaver Feaver, for an ODST medic on the outside there are not many differances from a normal ODST. Most of the differances would be on the inside of the ODST HUD the shows that that trooper is a medic, other then that I don't really see any real differance. For the backpack I think it would just be a normal ODST backpack with some addations on it to differ it as a Medic pack. I am really looking forward to seeing this project come to life, it seems very interesting.

Andrew:

 

[cocacole]

what you could do is put a red cross or other symbol meaning help on the front of the helmet.

 

[Toacrabman]

Yeah, but the red stripe is for odst squad leaders. Like in Halo 3. But the chestpiece could definately be white with a medic symbol on it. The rest would be default black, possibly a white stripe with a red cross in it for the helmet. The medic ODST needs some kind of definate feature that seperates him from the rest, like he white chestpiece with the medic thing, or maybe he could carry a folded stretcher, or for one thing, those biofoam spray canisters. <- why didnt we think of this before? I might model it.

 

[xBeaver Feaver]

Yeah, but the red stripe is for odst squad leaders. Like in Halo 3. But the chestpiece could definately be white with a medic symbol on it. The rest would be default black, possibly a white stripe with a red cross in it for the helmet. The medic ODST needs some kind of definate feature that seperates him from the rest, like he white chestpiece with the medic thing, or maybe he could carry a folded stretcher, or for one thing, those biofoam spray canisters. <- why didnt we think of this before? I might model it.

Biofoam canister can be found here:
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/36971/pep/biofoam_by_dreadmullet_unfold_by_flyerfye_ver2.pdo
Created by dreadmullet and unfolded by flyerfye

 

[Unity]

what you could do is put a red cross or other symbol meaning help on the front of the helmet.

Exactley what I was thinking.


You could also put it on the shoulder peices , That would be cool!

 

[Toacrabman]

Aww, dang i already modeled one.
http://www.4shared.com/file/RvXBVJ80/Biofoam_canister.html
Although its not as good as that one. I dont get how that one opens though.

 

[WrathPrime]

Well I would think an ODST would have some specialized gear like a real world medic would have. I think a tactical light on the helmet or some kind of attachment to see injuries better(magnifing, xray, ect). I think with all the armor that ODSTs and the troopers have that equipment designed to open armor and/or cut it open would be needed. Medics do carry stretchers but even the smallest one would take up a lot of room and be expensive, you could make one out of a thin foam sleeping mat by cutting details like handles and such into it as well as straps. I would also have a brace of some sort. There's quite a lot of gear a medic would carry so the list goes on and on.

 

[xBeaver Feaver]

Aww, dang i already modeled one.
http://www.4shared.com/file/RvXBVJ80/Biofoam_canister.html
Although its not as good as that one. I dont get how that one opens though.

I have not personally built one, so I'm not sure if it does open. However, with alittle creativity, Im sure you could find away to make the spout pivot open.

 

[Captain Recon]

Medics do carry stretchers but even the smallest one would take up a lot of room and be expensive, you could make one out of a thin foam sleeping mat by cutting details like handles and such into it as well as straps. I would also have a brace of some sort. There's quite a lot of gear a medic would carry so the list goes on and on.

Actually, not really. What you're thinking about is a civilian paramedic. Military field-medics would only carry the basic equipment needed to stabilise the patient in the field (or 'triage'). ODSTs in particular wouldn't be expected to carry a huge amount more gear, much like modern-day Marines or SAS. A field-surgery kit would be enough: floor mat, hemostat set, some bandage scissors, tweezers for removing foreign objects (bullets), a sterile scalpel set, gauze and bandages, some suture sets, some painkillers, some sterile wipes and gloves, perhaps some anti-shock cocktails (hemostil is used nowadays for trauma patients).

So, in terms of an ODST, they'd carry a few field surgery kits (nowadays these kits come in single-use packs to prevent cross-contamination and infection), and from what we know from H3: ODST, some biofoam canisters.

What you have to realise that ODSTs are combatants - much like today's modern military, ODST field-medics would be armed and combat-ready. This means they need to balance their gear between medical and offensive, and given that most medics even today work on a triage system of 'if they can move, they can be treated elsewhere', it's unlikely an ODST would carry bulky medical equipment to do anything more than removing a Spiker round or patching up a plasma burn.

TL;DR: if you want authenticity, take along a few modern field-medic packs. If you need more, just let me know.

Isn't it great working in the medical industry?

 

[Toacrabman]

Yeah thats what i was thinkin, dont bring a whole hospital with you, just enough for somethin "temporary" which is mostly biofoam and adrenaline. also, I think splints would be a substitute for a big cumbersome brace. Basically the medic is there to make sure they can get somewhere were they can be treated, the medic dosent do anything that isnt absolutely nescessary for survival, unless it would kill them.

 

[ventrue]

What you have to realise that ODSTs are combatants - much like today's modern military, ODST field-medics would be armed and combat-ready.

Actually, if I'm not mistaken, it is a very recent development that ordinary medics go into combat guns blazing. The "traditional" medic is not a combattant according to the Geneva Conventions and does not carry any weapons, aside from maybe a sidearm for emergencies.

Of course, you have to differentiate between normal and special forces. Special forces (like the KSK, not sure what the American pendant is, not sure of ODSTs fit that description either) do have one team member with a medical specialisation, but since they are soldiers first and specialists second, these guys aren't "official" medics in the abovementioned sense and would not, for example, carry a badge with a red cross. They are also much more qualified than a typical field medic, being able and allowed to intubate, perform surgery, administer drugs etc., and therefore carry a much larger medical kit. I wouldn't be surprised if they had a foldable stretcher, too.

 

[WrathPrime]

Actually, not really. What you're thinking about is a civilian paramedic. Military field-medics would only carry the basic equipment needed to stabilise the patient in the field (or 'triage'). ODSTs in particular wouldn't be expected to carry a huge amount more gear, much like modern-day Marines or SAS. A field-surgery kit would be enough: floor mat, hemostat set, some bandage scissors, tweezers for removing foreign objects (bullets), a sterile scalpel set, gauze and bandages, some suture sets, some painkillers, some sterile wipes and gloves, perhaps some anti-shock cocktails (hemostil is used nowadays for trauma patients).

So, in terms of an ODST, they'd carry a few field surgery kits (nowadays these kits come in single-use packs to prevent cross-contamination and infection), and from what we know from H3: ODST, some biofoam canisters.

What you have to realise that ODSTs are combatants - much like today's modern military, ODST field-medics would be armed and combat-ready. This means they need to balance their gear between medical and offensive, and given that most medics even today work on a triage system of 'if they can move, they can be treated elsewhere', it's unlikely an ODST would carry bulky medical equipment to do anything more than removing a Spiker round or patching up a plasma burn.

TL;DR: if you want authenticity, take along a few modern field-medic packs. If you need more, just let me know.

Isn't it great working in the medical industry?

I'm not sure what medical industry you work in and I don't discredit your information or what you may do but I do know what I am talking about. Now days with just not having enough medics available almost all military personnel are trained with Combat Life Saver skills that help give them the ability to improve that the wounded will either live through the wounds inflicted or keep limbs. Blood loss is one of the main couses of death from wounds on the battle field and because of that the basic troop has in a CLS bag IV bags. Not every troop has a CLS bag but each does have an IFAK that has a pressure bandage, basic pills, and a host of other basic medical gear. An actual medic has his bag that could be over twice the size of the CLS bag or larger depending on what can be issued by that unit or if the medic can get it by other means.


Point is I wouldn't go out with a medic that at least have a backpack size bag on him.

 

[snypernight]

and looking at one of the halo live action shorts to remove a spiker round you need a very large saw, and wouldnt you want the medic identifecation patch to be small because in vietnam the medic choppers painted over the red crosses because the were like big targets for the vietcong.

 

[Toacrabman]

The covenant probly dont know, also, being the "big red target that you can seriously hurt the other team by taking out", is also that guy that "we need to cover or were done for" so they will cover him. The vietnam thing is irrelevant because the difference is the covies dont know. What they dont know, is seriously gonna hurt them.

 

[spartan005]

nice idea man and the diorama i have seen that one so many time its ur buddy roodkill he has a few built and might be makin more but i cant wait to see this done....

 

[snypernight]

The covenant probly dont know, also, being the "big red target that you can seriously hurt the other team by taking out", is also that guy that "we need to cover or were done for" so they will cover him. The vietnam thing is irrelevant because the difference is the covies dont know. What they dont know, is seriously gonna hurt them.

the covies do however understand, ok they are protecting him so lets kill him first am i right?