Project Cloverfield

[Xavier]

The scale comparasson for one, to me, it's completely different than the "main" monster. The one that ate HUD was about the size of a tank, the main monsters foot was the size of a tank. The one that was destroying Manhattan was half the size of the Brooklyn bridge, and living here in NYC and being in Manhattan everyday, the buildings it was knocking down aren't exactly small The Time Warner Center is in my neighborhood(Coulmbus Circle) and those things are massive, haha kinda sucked when I saw it all knocked down. Just my take on it I guess we'll find out if they make more CLoverfield related stuff.

idk... the monster that eat HUD seemed just as huge, but crouched down, and it was on all fours.

 

[Sean Bradley]

There was just one big monster, the illusion of it being different sizes is most likely due to the varying distance the creature was being shot from. When you see it from HUD's perspective (before he's 'eaten') there is no frame of reference, it's just an upshot and all you see is sky around it so you can't really tell the scale of the creature.


I just read up on the FAQ for the movie at IMDB, and was impressed with their analysis.. for anyone who's seen the movie and still has lingering questions I recommend it highly:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1060277/faq#.2.1.40

 

[abandonship]

Thanks Sean!

 

[Zaso117]

The cloverfield monster reminded me most of this.
http://www.legendgames.co.uk/acatalog/sw_universe_13.jpg
The acklay from Star Wars.
Anyone else agree?

 

[23Magnum]

There was just one big monster, the illusion of it being different sizes is most likely due to the varying distance the creature was being shot from. When you see it from HUD's perspective (before he's 'eaten') there is no frame of reference, it's just an upshot and all you see is sky around it so you can't really tell the scale of the creature.
I just read up on the FAQ for the movie at IMDB, and was impressed with their analysis.. for anyone who's seen the movie and still has lingering questions I recommend it highly:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1060277/faq#.2.1.40

Loved the movie. Some woman actually had to leave because of the camera work, and her husband looked pissed, haha. I felt bad for the guy.

The IMDB FAQ really connected some stuff for me that I've looked up before the movie came out. For instance, on 1-18-08.com you see a lot of photos of new stuff with a dead carcass of something on a beach somewhere. Hmm...interesting. Then, JJ's explanation of where the monster came from on IMDB shed some light, as well as the fake Japanese company reporting an 'accident' or something at one of their offshore deep sea oil drilling platforms off the coast of eastern United States. My details are sketchy as the fake site is now down and was as of the movie's release. I read somewhere it was made to look like someone hacked the site and change a lot of stuff on it. Also, blaming the company for destroying the world. All this stuff that is not spoiler highlight could of been found before the movie came out, and that's why I didn't hide it.

Now for my theory on where the monster came from and why it attacked.
Abrams explained that the monster was a baby. Seeing the photos of some dead thing on a beach along with the night shot of the military bombing something in the middle of the ocean, I believe that the Japanese company might have woke up and/or then killed the creature's mother/father/parent. The creature then went looking for it's parent(s) which lead it to New York City where it was 'confused' and 'scared', thus why it was 'attacking'.

That's all, but I think it's about the best idea possible. Details could be different, but what does anyone else think about my theory?

This movie is one of the best of it's genre. It kept me on the edge of my seat the entire time, and that's hard to accomplish with me as I don't usually get surprised by anything in movies like these anymore.

-Magnum

 

[abandonship]

i dont understand how they did the makeup (blood, etc.). i know there were parts where he turned off the camera for a bit, but sometimes they would have more stuff on them then they had before, and the camera didnt turn off. it befuddles me. haha

 

[23Magnum]

i dont understand how they did the makeup (blood, etc.). i know there were parts where he turned off the camera for a bit, but sometimes they would have more stuff on them then they had before, and the camera didnt turn off. it befuddles me. haha

I must say the camera had an amazingly long battery life on it, haha.

 

[Dedrick]

Was Olivia the only one who survived or was there someone else I forget.

 

[23Magnum]

Was Olivia the only one who survived or was there someone else I forget.

Yes, if she even did, but it's also possible that Beth and Rob might have survived depending on how long they were burried there before someone found the camera.

 

[Xavier]

I must say the camera had an amazingly long battery life on it, haha.

if you read imdb.com, you would see that all editing was done in camera, and the camera was only 'on' for the duration of the movie and therefore only was on for like an hour.

EDIT: Also, carcases on the beach...had bite marks in them, so i think they where whales.

 

[23Magnum]

if you read imdb.com, you would see that all editing was done in camera, and the camera was only 'on' for the duration of the movie and therefore only was on for like an hour.

EDIT: Also, carcases on the beach...had bite marks in them, so i think they where whales.

Actually, I was talking about the camera in the movie. It was recording off and on for almost 7 hrs. That kills a battery on a camera, especially when you use the infrared and lights on it.

Why they don't look anything like whales...
The thing in the middle of all the carcases, looks like a claw. Whales don't have claws.
The order the pictures are put in goes...People fleeing on raft from overturned boat, Military bombing, smoking boat(with blurred out part in water) with bloody looking water around it, boatman sifting through bloody looking water, carcases on beach.
Also the carcases look scaled, but more noticable is the one with the so called 'bite mark', the edges look cracked like a shell not blubber.

The monster was from the deep sea and I believe had a very hard crab-like shell which made it so hard to kill. The little ones sort of gave this impression to me as they too had very hard shells.

Still this is only my theory so I could be wrong, but doesn't my view look pretty convincing and logical?

 

[The Kraken]

The "top left" or farthest one back is a Sperm Whale...no?

http://www.oceanwanderers.com/SpermWhale.7328.JPG

And I think that "claw" you see is a whale's tail.

As for the monster being different sizes, I thought maybe that could in a way show how hectic the event was. You wouldn't really be paying attention to exactly how big the thing was, just that it was HUGE and about to eat/smash/otherwise end your existence. I know I would be thinking something along the lines of "holy ___ that's huge, I'm outta here!"

Also my friend pointed out that a military point of view might be bad in the sense that they would have to show how they reacted to a threat like that in only 20 minutes....I don't know if NY has a force that enormous at its immediate disposal. Katrina took FEMA a couple of DAYS to get anything done...and I remember someone high up saying on the news that it was the first they'd heard of it (Katrina) and it had been 2 or 3 days after it had happened.

 

[Xavier]

they never used infared. only the light. and the camera was only ON for 70min. Of course the battery would last that long on a camera that size.

its not a small camera: http://imdb.com/gallery/ss/1060277/00240CROP.jpg.html?seq=3

"holy ___ that's huge, I'm outta here!"

I know right! i wouldn't think twice about getting my X (sorry but your an 'X' for a reason) just GTFO of the place.

well i mean also look at 9/11, 3 jumbo jets, off course, not answering their radio's and we didnt have a single fighter jet in the air.

 

[23Magnum]

The "top left" or farthest one back is a Sperm Whale...no?



And I think that "claw" you see is a whale's tail.

Also my friend pointed out that a military point of view might be bad in the sense that they would have to show how they reacted to a threat like that in only 20 minutes....I don't know if NY has a force that enormous at its immediate disposal.

I know what plenty of whales look like, but what about the cracks I pointed out. I still see a lot of differences between your pic and the one on the 1-18 site. See...

I also pointed out the things I was talking about early in these photos.

they never used infared. only the light. and the camera was only ON for 70min. Of course the battery would last that long on a camera that size.

its not a small camera: http://imdb.com/gallery/ss/1060277/00240CROP.jpg.html?seq=3

You're seriously not going to argue this are you? Do you really think I'm that dense?

THAT'S A PRODUCTION STILL!

Do you really think he'd be lugging that thing around New York running for his life with that thing?! Those things aren't light at all. I would've dropped that beast in a second, screw documenting. It was more or less supposed to be something like this IN the movie, NOT what the movie was filmed WITH.

And yes they did use infrared(i.e. night vision) in the tunnel when those things attacked, cause he turned it on and BINGO there they were all light up in green.

Sorry for being grouchy, but I know what I'm talking about here. Some other stuff has been bugging me a little right now, but I won't get into that.

 

[The Kraken]

Just the wrinkled skin pattern of the whale, unless you are talking about the huge jagged marks to the right of the main bite...which my explanation would be bite/claw marks.

About the wrinkles/cracks, Wiki says:
"the skin on the back of the sperm whale is usually knobbly and has been likened to a prune by whale-watching enthusiasts."

http://www.glaucus.org.uk/sperm-whale-stranding-07W.jpg cracks, or skin pattern?

 

[23Magnum]

Just the wrinkled skin pattern of the whale, unless you are talking about the huge jagged marks to the right of the main bite...which my explanation would be bite/claw marks.

About the wrinkles/cracks, Wiki says:
"the skin on the back of the sperm whale is usually knobbly and has been likened to a prune by whale-watching enthusiasts."

http://www.glaucus.org.uk/sperm-whale-stranding-07W.jpg cracks, or skin pattern?

Ok so there's a small possibility you're right, but can you explain then why the cracks in the skin/shell project out away from the 'bite' mark? I think it's just a wound from the bombing scene, and this might explain why the military got to New York City so fast as they already new something might be coming and were already there. :rolleyes

 

[Xavier]

I know what plenty of whales look like, but what about the cracks I pointed out. I still see a lot of differences between your pic and the one on the 1-18 site. See...

I also pointed out the things I was talking about early in these photos.
You're seriously not going to argue this are you? Do you really think I'm that dense?

THAT'S A PRODUCTION STILL!

Do you really think he'd be lugging that thing around New York running for his life with that thing?! Those things aren't light at all. I would've dropped that beast in a second, screw documenting. It was more or less supposed to be something like this IN the movie, NOT what the movie was filmed WITH.

And yes they did use infrared(i.e. night vision) in the tunnel when those things attacked, cause he turned it on and BINGO there they were all light up in green.

Sorry for being grouchy, but I know what I'm talking about here. Some other stuff has been bugging me a little right now, but I won't get into that.

Um, there arnt any lights on the small ones, the quality isnt as good as the movie, and... see heres the main point THE BATTERY WOULD STILL LAST 2 HOURS.

 

[23Magnum]

Um, there arnt any lights on the small ones, the quality isnt as good as the movie, and... see heres the main point THE BATTERY WOULD STILL LAST 2 HOURS.

I didn't say that it was that exact model, just that size. I've used both types of cameras of multiple types(miniDVs and DVXs type), so I know what their uses are and their downfalls.

I'm done. You guys argue amongst yourselves about this. I'll go to another forum where people actually listen to reason and logical conclusions.

-Magnum

 

[The Kraken]

Talking about whale skin patterns and trying to prove a point other than yours is correct is illogical? Okay...


Let's say we make a bite mark on the previous picture I posted...

Interesting. Similar?

 

[abandonship]

Also my friend pointed out that a military point of view might be bad in the sense that they would have to show how they reacted to a threat like that in only 20 minutes....I don't know if NY has a force that enormous at its immediate disposal. Katrina took FEMA a couple of DAYS to get anything done...and I remember someone high up saying on the news that it was the first they'd heard of it (Katrina) and it had been 2 or 3 days after it had happened.

FEMA is not the national guard. haha