Spartan Numbers
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Fox, I get what you're saying about the squads, but the word "squad" by definition implies more than one person. The headhunters, like you said, are a two man group. Two is still more than one. If one of them is KIA (Or MIA. "Spartans never die"), then the remaining member is no longer part of a squad.
Those who go solo are typically called rogues, lone-wolves, operatives, or freelancers, depending on their overall affiliation and classification. Rogues typically are unaffiliated. Ex-military, disbanded, discharged, etc.. Basically the people who are no longer a part of nor welcome in an official group. A lone-wolf can be a rogue, but a lone wolf can also be affiliated with a group, just not part of a team. Master Chief, for example, would be a lone-wolf, as he is still part of the UNSC but he acts and is most often deployed alone (at least in-game). The difference between a lone-wolf and an operative/operator is that a lone-wolf is usually solo because he/she is antisocial or by any other explanation "does not play well with others." Operatives typically are those whose objective is best accomplished solo. Scouting, infiltration, sniper, or those who would have been issued the JFO configuration in Reach, being the ones who have to get up as close to the enemy ranks as possible to identify priority targets. A lot easier to do with one Spartan than with a whole squad. Freelancers on the other hand are more closely related to rogues, but while rogues tend to operate on their own and for their own purposes, freelancers are often willing to put their skills out for hire. Basically a "higher class" of mercenary.
So with those definitions in mind, I would probably have to classify myself/my Spartan as an operative with lone-wolf tendencies. lol. I can work with a team, but prefer solo most of the time, and my tactics generally gravitate towards a more solo methods (long range sniping or tactical approach as opposed to guns blazing, shock and awe, or overwhelming firepower tactics).
Those who go solo are typically called rogues, lone-wolves, operatives, or freelancers, depending on their overall affiliation and classification. Rogues typically are unaffiliated. Ex-military, disbanded, discharged, etc.. Basically the people who are no longer a part of nor welcome in an official group. A lone-wolf can be a rogue, but a lone wolf can also be affiliated with a group, just not part of a team. Master Chief, for example, would be a lone-wolf, as he is still part of the UNSC but he acts and is most often deployed alone (at least in-game). The difference between a lone-wolf and an operative/operator is that a lone-wolf is usually solo because he/she is antisocial or by any other explanation "does not play well with others." Operatives typically are those whose objective is best accomplished solo. Scouting, infiltration, sniper, or those who would have been issued the JFO configuration in Reach, being the ones who have to get up as close to the enemy ranks as possible to identify priority targets. A lot easier to do with one Spartan than with a whole squad. Freelancers on the other hand are more closely related to rogues, but while rogues tend to operate on their own and for their own purposes, freelancers are often willing to put their skills out for hire. Basically a "higher class" of mercenary.
So with those definitions in mind, I would probably have to classify myself/my Spartan as an operative with lone-wolf tendencies. lol. I can work with a team, but prefer solo most of the time, and my tactics generally gravitate towards a more solo methods (long range sniping or tactical approach as opposed to guns blazing, shock and awe, or overwhelming firepower tactics).
foxleader
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that's why I said force recon and few post back, they would be like a headhunter remember what jun and noble did, put a remote de-charge on the jammer and still cleared out some of the enemy. even the chief asked about it in halo 4. so we'd have to call you a force recon or pathfinder.
mawrTRON
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Im liking the naming system....
Question though, do we name the country we were born or where we are living currently?
so would it be..
mawrTRON T-001, London Team, England Squad, North Atlantic Company, Royal British Battalion
or
mawrTRON T-001, North Shore Team, Auckland Squad, South Pacific Company, Royal New Zealand Battalion
Do they look right or am I missing something here?
Im dibsing T-001 if thats possible
Question though, do we name the country we were born or where we are living currently?
so would it be..
mawrTRON T-001, London Team, England Squad, North Atlantic Company, Royal British Battalion
or
mawrTRON T-001, North Shore Team, Auckland Squad, South Pacific Company, Royal New Zealand Battalion
Do they look right or am I missing something here?
Im dibsing T-001 if thats possible
CaptainKrole
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So can I still choose S-141?
BiGHARYSCOTSMiN
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You know, (assuming you're spartan IV) there is a specialization called "Rogue"...
You could be that guy who gets thrown into month-long missions alone... and come back with 200 grunt heads
Also, previous Spartans are very capable of being lone-hunters so I wouldn't be surprised to see any of them.
Look,
Halo Wikia quoting Halo 4 said:
I think assigning a group of people to this project to plan and work out the finite details would be an awesome idea at this point. What is going on right now on this thread is great and all but there really needs to be a planning commitee. I am just really hyped up about this and would hate for it to fall to pieces 
CaptainKrole
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I concur!!
MissingSpartan7
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I've been thinking over some of the terms to classify an "individual". But I wanted to make it work in a way that denotes status relative to a fireteam/squad.
Eventually, I got something like this:
If you are IN a fireteam/squad, you are classified as either an OPERATIVE or SPARTAN.
If you are looking to JOIN or CREATE a fireteam/squad, you are classified as a RECON or PATHFINDER respectively.
If you are NOT part of a fireteam/squad, or in limited contact with one, you are classified as LONEWOLF, ROGUE or FREELANCER.
Obviously, this is more oriented towards spartan builds (rather than ODST/marine), and some of the terms could potentially be improved on.
This is more designed to help and encourage people to find groups.
For those in a fireteam/squad, it reads like this:
\\BATTALION > COMPANY > SQUAD > FIRETEAM > NAME S-ID || CLASSIFICATION
For those not in a fireteam/squad, it reads something like this:
\\BATTALION > COMPANY > [UNASSIGNED] > NAME S-ID || CLASSIFICATION
Both squad and fireteam are condensed to [unassigned] because some members may be in isolated/low density regions such as Hawaii or country/outback Australia, and there may not be sufficient members nearby to classify a squad. (I'm running on a similar concept to the 501st "outposts")
"Unassigned" is a placeholder term, I can't think of a better one at the moment.
However, some of you may have a "backstory" to your character or want to use one of these terms anyway.
\\BATTALION > COMPANY > SQUAD > FIRETEAM > NAME S-ID || CLASSIFICATION || SPECIALISATION
Using the above, you would list off your LOC/ID/CLSF and then follow up with your "specialisation" term - which can basically be whatever you want: eg. Sniper/Recon/Lonewolf/HeavyWep/Rogue
This way, you maintain your classification, relative to your squad/fireteam, but can "specialise" in a certain area.
Classification and Specialisation both exist as separate columns to LOC/ID - mainly because it would be easier to filter by, if you were searching for other members within your region/area.
Long post is long.
Thoughts, suggestions, critiques?
Eventually, I got something like this:
If you are IN a fireteam/squad, you are classified as either an OPERATIVE or SPARTAN.
If you are looking to JOIN or CREATE a fireteam/squad, you are classified as a RECON or PATHFINDER respectively.
If you are NOT part of a fireteam/squad, or in limited contact with one, you are classified as LONEWOLF, ROGUE or FREELANCER.
Obviously, this is more oriented towards spartan builds (rather than ODST/marine), and some of the terms could potentially be improved on.
This is more designed to help and encourage people to find groups.
For those in a fireteam/squad, it reads like this:
\\BATTALION > COMPANY > SQUAD > FIRETEAM > NAME S-ID || CLASSIFICATION
For those not in a fireteam/squad, it reads something like this:
\\BATTALION > COMPANY > [UNASSIGNED] > NAME S-ID || CLASSIFICATION
Both squad and fireteam are condensed to [unassigned] because some members may be in isolated/low density regions such as Hawaii or country/outback Australia, and there may not be sufficient members nearby to classify a squad. (I'm running on a similar concept to the 501st "outposts")
"Unassigned" is a placeholder term, I can't think of a better one at the moment.
However, some of you may have a "backstory" to your character or want to use one of these terms anyway.
\\BATTALION > COMPANY > SQUAD > FIRETEAM > NAME S-ID || CLASSIFICATION || SPECIALISATION
Using the above, you would list off your LOC/ID/CLSF and then follow up with your "specialisation" term - which can basically be whatever you want: eg. Sniper/Recon/Lonewolf/HeavyWep/Rogue
This way, you maintain your classification, relative to your squad/fireteam, but can "specialise" in a certain area.
Classification and Specialisation both exist as separate columns to LOC/ID - mainly because it would be easier to filter by, if you were searching for other members within your region/area.
Long post is long.
Thoughts, suggestions, critiques?
MissingSpartan7
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Wouldn't that move us away from just being a community forum where everyone has varying levels of skill, and away from only being "members of the 405th forum".
Being officially/semi-officially associated with MS/343/Bungie would likely require the introduction of quality standards, as we would be representing both a product and company, and misportrayals or poor representations could reflect badly on publicity/image standards/advertising for the (Halo) franchise.
E: That said, I do think we should have some sort of liaison/contact with 343/MS if they want to organise an event for advertising/PR purposes.
I actually intentionally went through the specializations saving the Rogue for last so that it would show up on my in-game ID. The (condensed) backstory for my Spartan starts with him as a Spartan III originally stationed on Reach as a JFO/Hazop specialist against the rebels/insurrectionists. Slightly "anti-social" behavior, (often coming to verbal blows with the squad leader, whom he felt was not a competent leader, but out of respect for the higher ranking officer who had established the chain of command, he tried to work with the team) and showing prowess in solo ops led to him being re-assigned as a scout/sniper, and receiving an armor configuration more suited to his new role. The arrival of the Covenant on Reach, particularly the Jiralhanae, eventually led to another re-assignment after the planet fell. He was ordered to stow away on a covenant supply ship bound for Dosaic. His assignment had a secondary purpose as well: to field test a handful of Mark VI prototype amor pieces, as well as the Vestol Corporation's side project, codenamed "Rogue." Being "deployed" entirely on his own, it was up to him to repair nad maintain his armor, which allowed him to garner a rather intimate knowledge of its inner workings. His mission came to a close shortly before the end of the human/Covenant war, just in time for his debriefing to play a small part in bringing the Rogue to fruition and, having grown quite attached to the project, he became one of the first to incorporate the new helmet into his own newly-issued Mark VI armor. He saw limited action at the close of the human/Covenant war, took on whatever assignments he could get and when the well ran dry, turned freelance on the side. Eventually word got around that the UNSC was recruiting for the Spartan IV program. He joined up as soon as he could, eager to escape the doldrums of being planet-bound for so long. During his "down time" on the Infinity he applied his knowledge of both the Mark V and Mark VI armor systems to studying and understanding the Mk. VI 2.0 systems utilized by the Spartan IV program. When the opportunity arose he used what he learned to custom build his own Rogue variant, completely unsatisfied with the appearance of the UNSC's successor. Now as part of the Spartan IV program, he is bounced back and forth between solo ops and working within small fireteams as something of an "attache," not officially a part of the team, but sent along when his particular skills can aid them in their objective and a lone Spartan would not be able to accomplish the task.
Went a bit more wordy there than I originally intended, but the short story is he was originally a Spartan III, but is now part of the Spartan IV program. Because retirement is overrated.
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