Does Spartan armour rust???

Discussion in 'General Halo Discussion' started by PaiganBoi, Sep 26, 2018.

  1. PaiganBoi

    PaiganBoi Sr Member

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    Greetings all. Let us have a serious discussion/debate about this. I have seen some really well done builds since I joined and have noticed that some people when weathering the suits have added rust to the suits for detail.
    So just like the title of the thread, does Spartan armour actually rust?
    Correct me if I am wrong but, Iron based metals are the typical thing that rust. That is due to the iron oxidizing.
    Mjolnir suites are all futuristic and all, so it would seem a little strange to be using materials and alloys that are iron based.
    I haven't done any research into this and this is just an opinion off the top of my head.
    So.... please discuss..... Now!
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  2. Lieutenant Jaku

    Lieutenant Jaku Well-Known Member

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    Just my opinion, they rust, Spartans just caretoo much about their armor to let them rust, which also effects the strength of the metal.
  3. TurboCharizard

    TurboCharizard RMO & BCO 405th Regiment Officer Community Staff

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    All metallic materials oxidize and corrode in some fashion, some are just more resistant to it than others. Basically if there's metal coming into contact with oxygen or an acid there'll be an oxidation layer created where chemical reactions will occur transferring electrons and creating impurities.

    If you have a fancy space alloy with platinum or iridium that are corrosion resistant there'd likely not be visible corrosion developed in the lifetime of a suit unless dunked in a strong acid. The only downside to alloys like this are the weight and cost of producing them, a kilogram of platinum(90%)-iridium(10%) is on the order of $100k (check out the International Prototype Kilogram for fancy corrosion resistant alloys). I could see something like this being used to match the description of being incredibly strong, weighing a half tonne when worn and being the cost of a small Starfighter.

    You could go the cheaper route of using a steel that's alloyed with a noble metal. This will give you the rust colour eventually if the armour doesn't have a surface coating and isn't cared for. Surface coating of metals is basic preventative maintenance to help keep rust at bay and you see a lot of brightly coloured Spartans running around which means they're protecting their armour and showing team pride. Friction points are the only area that I see surface coatings being removed unless the shielding drops somehow so I'd only expect to see corrosion around joints and overlaps of armour.

    Assumptions that I made when doing my suit, maintenance and cleaning is being completed regularly so paint is being either layered or ground down to cover damaged areas. If there is bare metal it is from recent damage from scrapes and scratches, this will leave a bright metal as opposed to a rust because the top surfaces have been removed (where rust/oxidation would form). Space alloys are used and it's likely not a iron based material so you won't see red iron-oxide rust it'll be either a white surface corrosion or a dull-lustre to the surface for oxidation of things like titanium.
  4. MasterChief7117

    MasterChief7117 Member

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    Well, yes spartan armor is in the future so their metals are most likely great in quality. It is also mentioned that their armor is mainly titanium which technically does not and never "rusts". Rust is a term only for iron or iron based materials so yeah mjolnir armor wouldn't turn reddish in color unless they do have iron in them. However, titanium can still corrode and oxidize, but titanium is highly resistant to corrosion.
  5. Sean Anwalt

    Sean Anwalt RCO 405th Regiment Officer

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    After the second world war, many Japanese soldiers were left on islands, and some waited DECADES before coming back. In one instance, I forget the guy's name, so take this with a grain of salt, but the soldier hard done his best, stranded on the island, to keep everything in perfect working order. His weapon had rusted from decades of harsh sea air, but his uniform was PERFECT.

    Let me interject a personal note, those who worked on halo (bungie, 343i) did it for the money, and honestly I'm not sure they care too super much about consistency or researching what they've done. Not to rag on them, they did a great job. But if you had a person who has been through everything a SPARTAN had been through, in real life, with all the training, respect, drilling, and discipline that lifestyle dictates, along with the materials and tech advances mentioned above, I am not confident you would ever see rust anywhere on a SPARTAN.

    Would also not hear Marines complain as frequently, either.
  6. Lieutenant Jaku

    Lieutenant Jaku Well-Known Member

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    well marines, you never know, maybe they dont have time to train more so just throw people on the battlefield
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  7. vRinzler

    vRinzler New Member

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    Like most people are saying, probably but the care and maintenance probably led them to do their best to not let that happen. ODST and marines, on the other hand, I feel that they have a much more disposable outlook on their armor.
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