Thanks Link, but I've already printed those out. What I'm looking for is the marines that dont have the armor plating, the guys who are in the fatigues. I wonder if you can mod halo 1 and look at the models of the marines. That would be very helpful. If not, I think I'm just going to have to take some pictures of the marines off the television. By the way Link, do you have an msn or aim messenger? I'd like to talk with you about something.