Real life ODST

[UNSC Leatherneck]

I'm sure some of you may be familiar with this. Someone may have even posted this already. Bear with me, I'm new
The boys and girls at the Army's Natick Soldier Research, Development, and Engineering Center have a concept for what soldier's equipment will look like in ten years or so. It's called Future Force Warrior Concept. By the look of it, I wonder if any of the folks at Natick play Halo. More likely, the folks at Bungie did their research. More info at Future Force Warrior.

 

[volkov]

Well, bungie didn't miss the mark by much did they?

edit: on the other hand, that canadian who built the "trojan" armor seems to have missed very badly

 

[UNSC Leatherneck]

edit: on the other hand, that canadian who built the "trojan" armor seems to have missed very badly

From what I've seen, he has some good ideas. However, a full suit like that adds weight and, more importantly, presents a problem with heat management. Imagine running around in that suit in 100 degree weather with a combat load for days on end. There is always a balance required between protection and mobility. Also, his suit seems to have quite a bit of superfluous details that make it look like something out of Star Wars rather than a piece of military equipment.

 

[tubachris85x]

From what I've seen, he has some good ideas. However, a full suit like that adds weight and, more importantly, presents a problem with heat management. Imagine running around in that suit in 100 degree weather with a combat load for days on end. There is always a balance required between protection and mobility. Also, his suit seems to have quite a bit of superfluous details that make it look like something out of Star Wars rather than a piece of military equipment.

Oh man, this thing has been out for awhile. I have a magazine from when they annouced it. That freakin gun though is so hidiouse looking IMO. The magazine though was really old, like before 2000 if I remember correctly. Had some other varients too in the aritcle.

I have to agree with your point on the use of a fully covered suit. Going into the army, carrying a 40lb rucksac through the woods is bad enough as it is. Unless the suit was made to actually comfort the wearer, I wouldnt want to use it, especially with a fully enclosed helmet, unless it offers a very good way of air flow to allows the wearer to breath normally. Unfortunatly, as cool as some of it actually looks, its not something people will want to go into actual combat with. Something like this would be good for operations that dont require long term deployments and that dont extend longer then a few days. Goes back to the weight issue.

Now, if it were very similar to the functions of spartan armor, then possibly, but these types of systems are very expensive, and times that by the number of actual infantry soldiers in the army/marines and your going to need a huge defense budget

Meh, it resembles more of the halo style marine with the exception of the helmet.

 

[CrAzY CH13F]

i remember this, its old and i saw it on the discovery channel at one point. tbh i think its alot of c*** if you watched it. "you combat enhanced soldier will be able to jump 25 m" lolz. instead of making that we should copy bungies spartan program lol just need some 6 year old kids clone them and whey =]. oh well only the future knows what is in store for us.

 

[tubachris85x]

i remember this, its old and i saw it on the discovery channel at one point. tbh i think its alot of c*** if you watched it. "you combat enhanced soldier will be able to jump 25 m" lolz. instead of making that we should copy bungies spartan program lol just need some 6 year old kids clone them and whey =]. oh well only the future knows what is in store for us.

The sad truth to reality is that you wont see real representations of your favorite game armor's by the actual military, especially this..because Bungie would have to sell the rights to use it's image for example..

 

[UNSC Leatherneck]

The biggest problem facing powered armor, exoskeletons, etc. is power. Providing enhanced strength, endurance, regulating temperature, all uses power. Right now, batteries do not have the storage density needed for extended operations. One of the biggest problems they had with the Land Warrior system was the batteries. Anyway, until batteries or other energy storage mediums become vastly more efficient soldier augmentations won't be feasible. What I'm waiting for is powered armor a'la Starship Troopers (the book, not that ghastly film.) That would be sweet. Although, thinking about it, it's basically a Spartan with jump jets and some additional toys(nuclear rockets!!!) and about a thousand additional pounds.

 

[SGT Razor]

They forgot the "U" in front of "NSC."

 

[Vrogy]

The biggest problem facing powered armor, exoskeletons, etc. is power. Providing enhanced strength, endurance, regulating temperature, all uses power. Right now, batteries do not have the storage density needed for extended operations. One of the biggest problems they had with the Land Warrior system was the batteries. Anyway, until batteries or other energy storage mediums become vastly more efficient soldier augmentations won't be feasible. What I'm waiting for is powered armor a'la Starship Troopers (the book, not that ghastly film.) That would be sweet. Although, thinking about it, it's basically a Spartan with jump jets and some additional toys(nuclear rockets!!!) and about a thousand additional pounds.

You'd like the Starcraft II armor- it reminds me a LOT of the Starship Troopers book.

 

[NZTK]

I reckon the first people to wear powered armour (not counting Japanese nurses) will most likely be the first human explorers on mars... it that happens at all. I highly doubt solders will ever really see this kind of stuff any time soon, sadly the life of a soldier is valued too low for them to use this kind of technology. I remember reading about those poor US kids sent to Iraq, not being given adequate body armour because its "too expensive" If the worlds militaries are too cheap to give out proper vests, what makes people think they'll even consider giving them robot enhanced limbs and whatnot. It would be cool to see a full fledged suit of "tank-buster" armour, but it wont ever happen.

 

[wolf]

maybe the power issue could be solved by a manportable nuclear reactor. lol. as cool as all this gear sounds, it will probably never be implemented on a widescale anyway. i could see special forces maybe getting some....in 15 years if they solve the power issue.

 

[fightstar]

maybe the power issue could be solved by a manportable nuclear reactor. lol. as cool as all this gear sounds, it will probably never be implemented on a widescale anyway. i could see special forces maybe getting some....in 15 years if they solve the power issue.

Maybe with this, but others claim it's a hoax. I sure hope not. Time will tell.

 

[NZTK]

Man portable nuclear reactors would be a terrible idea. If the soldier is captured, the enemy could take the enriched uranium, what's worse, imagine one being hit in the power core with an RPG. Human dirty bomb anyone?

 

[Loess]

Maybe with this, but others claim it's a hoax. I sure hope not. Time will tell.

Not sure about those batteries. Radiation straight into electricity sounds kinda iffy (I'm not a Materials Engineer, so I can't flat-out call BS). If they were real, satellites would be using them already, rather than solar or nuclear-thermoelectric power.

 

[UNSC Leatherneck]

maybe the power issue could be solved by a manportable nuclear reactor. lol. as cool as all this gear sounds, it will probably never be implemented on a widescale anyway. i could see special forces maybe getting some....in 15 years if they solve the power issue.

Man portable nuclear reactor is a bit of an oxymoron because even the smallest reactors are far too large to be man portable. Think shipping container sized. Even at that sized the thing is pretty heavy, given she shielding needed to contain the radiation. Also, I don't think I'd want to go into battle with a little slice of the apocalypse strapped to my back.

 

[tubachris85x]

Rofl...just strap some car batteries...they seem to last awhile..

 

[Vrogy]

One word, folks... nanotechnology. Capacitors built with carbon nanotubules have incredible surface area, and thus far more capacity then normal caps. Capacitors also can be charged and discharged extremely rapidly- for example, a camera flash is powered via one. Scale that up, give it a few years of refinement.. and we might yet see lots of interesting, disruptive technologies come into play- electric cars which can travel hundreds of miles and charge in 5 minutes, powerful exoskeletons, seriously ridiculously awesometacular railguns, lasers..

(this thread is definitely OT at this point, but I think it's gone in a good direction)

 

[volkov]

yeah, I wouldn't count on power being a problem in the future, it's only natural that every now and then we do something that people 50 years before wouldn't of thought possible. In fact, it's much less then that nowdays, some of the special effects made by computers in movies would have been considered flat out impossible not very long ago.

 

[Vrogy]

yeah, I wouldn't count on power being a problem in the future, it's only natural that every now and then we do something that people 50 years before wouldn't of thought possible. In fact, it's much less then that nowdays, some of the special effects made by computers in movies would have been considered flat out impossible not very long ago.

Heh, yes. This is a wonderful subject, here's a good image to learn about and meditate on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imagearadig...Frr15Events.jpg

 

[UNSC Leatherneck]

(this thread is definitely OT at this point, but I think it's gone in a good direction)

Nothing wrong with off topic. I somewhat intended the pic to stimulate discussion. Either way, it's a really cool pic.