Halo 4 & 5 Spartan Undersuit Parts

Discussion in 'Halo Soft Parts' started by Vrogy, May 24, 2015.

  1. Vrogy

    Vrogy

    I'm working with rensole117 over in the Netherlands to produce a set of highly accurate parts to aid in building a Halo 4 spartan undersuit.

    He's doing 3D modeling on this project, I'll be 3D printing and molding parts. References are https://www.flickr.com/photos/vrogy/17863683618/

    Here's our progress so far:
    17989030796_caf6cf4184_z.jpg Halo 4 Spartan Undersuit Upper Spine by Michael Vroegop, on Flickr

    17392896124_28e1e2deec_z.jpg Halo 4 Spartan Undersuit Upper Spine by Michael Vroegop, on Flickr

    18052344781_a521c4c080_z.jpg Halo 4 Spartan Undersuit Main Spine by Michael Vroegop, on Flickr

    I'll be providing feedback as work continues, like so:
    18024987876_af7ba73f95_z.jpg Halo 4 Spartan Undersuit Main Spine- Feedback no. 1 by Michael Vroegop, on Flickr
     
  2. WandererTJ

    WandererTJ 405th Regiment Officer

    Re: Halo 4 Spartan Undersuit Parts

    Will you also be making the pieces with the hexagon pattern on them?
     
  3. Vrogy

    Vrogy

    Re: Halo 4 Spartan Undersuit Parts

    I've seen several methods to make that work that I'd like to try. I don't think anyone has solved all of these issues, yet-

    Requirements:
    -indented hexagon mesh or raised hexagonal lattice/array
    These imply methods of manufacture, heat indentation of the mesh or possibly surface lamination of hexagons. I think the indentation method yields a slightly better result, as surface tension tends to slightly dome each hexagon.
    -paintable
    Both to add the color to patches, and the subtle shaded digital rectilinear grid.
    -semi-gloss
    There's reflectivity visible at raised edges of the undersuit, but for the most part its shade seems constant.
    -stretchy
    If the suit is built by laminating spandex, open-celled foam, and textured foam / detail parts, the outer layer will need to stretch substantially to allow a full range of motion.
    -breathable(!)
    Some ventilation is absolutely necessary, with all these insulating materials in the suit's composition.

    The actual hex-mesh parts' size and shape will vary from person to person- I don't see a point to making available pre-made pieces of a certain scale and shape- it's bound to not fit a majority of people.
     
  4. WandererTJ

    WandererTJ 405th Regiment Officer

    Re: Halo 4 Spartan Undersuit Parts

    Those are all definitely things I've had on my mind as well.
    Well... not all of them, but most of them.
    I've been trying to come up with multiple approaches to find what could be best.
    For my custom build I've decided on going with Heat-Stamped (recessed hexagons) 5mm foam panels, attached to one another by thin elastic bands, with the panels all velcrod to fabric underneath.

    It may not be the best approach, but it should be cheap and the details will be effective, it'll all be semi-flexible, and having about a 2mm gap between each panel should leave it so that it is still slightly breathable, though it could obviously be better.

    One extra concern I have that you didn't mention is that I would like to be able to wash the compression clothing that is my bottom layer because I'm sure it'll get smelly after a while. While washing it, I want to take everything else off so that none of the undersuit armor pieces get damaged in the wash... not sure if they would, but it's a precaution I want to take.

    I'm not far enough into my build to start putting the undersuit together, but I have done a material study with heat stamping the foam (pics in my build thread, link in my sig).
    It definitely works, but I would like it if my stamp was larger and had deeper recesses.
    I have 2 models I put together in SolidWorks to eventually print, but alas I don't have the means to currently. If you want to try it out though, I could send them to you.
    I think I currently have the dimensions set at:
    Recess depth = 0.075"
    Hexagon width = 0.42"
    Honecomb wall thickness = .25*(Hexagon width)
     
  5. The BorosBoss

    The BorosBoss

    Re: Halo 4 Spartan Undersuit Parts

    Awesome!
     
  6. Ashuraa

    Ashuraa Judicial Officer Division Staff 405th Regiment Officer

    Re: Halo 4 Spartan Undersuit Parts

    I would make the under suit closest to your body with light weight 4way stretch sport material. It can be interesting to sew. I did it with my under-suit. I have not added the foam pieces to it yet. Those will be added via Velcro. The thing with washing any of it is that the velcro, make sure you have the fuzzy side of the velcro on the clothing part of the suit. Otherwise when you wash it, the hooks will snag onto everything, and clog themselves up, so they do not hold as well. They will also tear up any delicate fabrics that you might have, such as that lovely 4 way stretch fabric.

    If you need help making your clothing pattern, I might be able to give some advice, and such.
     
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  7. Vrogy

    Vrogy

    Re: Halo 4 Spartan Undersuit Parts

    I'm not planning to use much Velcro. Base layer will be a trimmed morphsuit. Lots of Barge holding things together, it's been impressive in material tests.
    Got this in earlier.
    18187548018_e0971ceb6b.jpg 18189198419_9283fa3ea9.jpg

    Started drawing up some of the undersuit on my own, too-
    Kneecaps here:
    18185653468_9c9e5e880b.jpg 18375168931_e1f91fa687.jpg

    18348341636_33bb77a6fe.jpg 18377053741_5897661519.jpg
     
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  8. Ashuraa

    Ashuraa Judicial Officer Division Staff 405th Regiment Officer

    Re: Halo 4 Spartan Undersuit Parts

    That looks really nice
     
  9. Vrogy

    Vrogy

    Re: Halo 4 Spartan Undersuit Parts

    Revisions and rebuilds continue with the flood arm. Going between two different references probably doesn't help.
    NOT FINAL.
    18419972592_99b4900f03.jpg Untitled by Michael Vroegop, on Flickr

    Added flanges to the knees.

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  10. Frozensnot

    Frozensnot

    Re: Halo 4 Spartan Undersuit Parts

    All the work you have done so far looks amazing! That flood arm is very menacing! I personally like your model better than the reference you are using. Your model reminds me of a shark.
     
  11. WandererTJ

    WandererTJ 405th Regiment Officer

    Re: Halo 4 Spartan Undersuit Parts

    Where did you obtain that hexagon pattern?!?

    Also, props on having a ruler with 32nds/64ths.
    If it has 10ths/100ths on the otherside it's like mine! :)
     
  12. Vrogy

    Vrogy

    Re: Halo 4 Spartan Undersuit Parts

    Hex - amazon. Ruler- nah. It's just something we had at the machine shop. If we need to spec something sub-eyeball range we go to calipers, micrometers.

    more greebles.
    18782069435_068ed1019e_c.jpg

    Joost is about done with the arm. Final pass, should be printing next weekend? We'll have to do some weird stuff to get it prepped as a negative- several flanged sections bolted together, an armature inside. Pour will be low-temp monster clay, possibly in a few pieces.

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  13. SPARTAN Z999

    SPARTAN Z999 New Member

    Re: Halo 4 Spartan Undersuit Parts

    I have an idea for the undersuit on my Halo 4 patchwork MJOLNIR GEN2 budget speed build:
    What if I took a hexagonal patterned mesh and spraypainted over it onto craft foam to get the desired look? It wouldn't have the proper texture, but with the size of the suit I'm making texture isn't a variable I'm taking into account.
     
  14. Vrogy

    Vrogy

    Re: Halo 4 Spartan Undersuit Parts

    I would expect the result to equal the effort you put into that.

    While throwing random search terms into google last night I came across this - http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=155364&page=7&p=2681341&viewfull=1#post2681341 - I'll try it soon. Basically, puffy paint stenciled onto stretch vinyl, hit with a heat gun to shrink the vinyl.


    I started on the shoulders. This needs some tweaking.
    18341664104_92a76d7c5d_c.jpg undersuit_greeble_shoulder_wip1 by Michael Vroegop, on Flickr


    Shin fronts are about good to go.
    18341666804_eda85498cf_c.jpg shingreeble_wip2 by Michael Vroegop, on Flickr
     
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  15. Vrogy

    Vrogy

    Re: Halo 4 Spartan Undersuit Parts

    More work's getting done, should be printing these up very soon -
    buckles, side of the thigh
    18847522238_1eb2342f88_z.jpg
    elbow, lower and upper
    18422155373_24400c23a1_z.jpg
    lower spine
    18420582944_2f327312d7_z.jpg
    Everything done so far. Should have the arm sculpt to throw in here tomorrow.
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  16. Vrogy

    Vrogy

    Re: Halo 4 Spartan Undersuit Parts

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    Red areas are parts which have yet to be modeled.
     
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  17. WandererTJ

    WandererTJ 405th Regiment Officer

    Re: Halo 4 Spartan Undersuit Parts

    Are you planning on eventually doing all of the light green pieces?
     
  18. Vrogy

    Vrogy

    Re: Halo 4 Spartan Undersuit Parts

    They'll get done, but I think they're parts that will need to be re-shaped to fit different spartans' body sizes. Maybe a 'general guide' set of patterns. Getting into that this weekend.

    Here's some of the printed parts-

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  19. Vrogy

    Vrogy

    Parts modeled so far:
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    References:
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  20. Crimmson

    Crimmson

    I really enjoy your updates and all the projects that you work on.
     
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  21. Vrogy

    Vrogy

    All parts modeled- may add boots and codpiece, rather have them very flexible foam if possible for freedom of movement.
    18897748933_d6ba05b4ec_c.jpg All Halo 4 Undersuit Parts by Michael Vroegop, on Flickr

    19459513149_89dbc62aa2.jpg rear calf h4 undersuit parts by Michael Vroegop, on Flickr

    19025210223_b04a8b1a95.jpg h4 undersuit large upper back plate center sections by Michael Vroegop, on Flickr

    19504295579_10ee3331b2.jpg IMG_3806 by Michael Vroegop, on Flickr

    19070015033_8f38ce8347.jpg IMG_3815 by Michael Vroegop, on Flickr

    19023709344_9c60a55677.jpg halo 4 undersuit all printed parts by Michael Vroegop, on Flickr

    Lots of work has been done. Also managed to get a mannequin finished just today - it's packing tape and cling-film filled with expanding foam. Sean Bradley's tip to spray down the foam with water to speed curing helped a lot. Feet are 3/4" conduit screwed to a plywood base.

    19695809561_43314cbdeb_b.jpg Me, Mannequin. His name is Roy. by Michael Vroegop, on Flickr

    Patterning fabric areas, molding parts is next. Haven't settled on a material yet, leaning in the direction of something flexible.

    Have some appointments later this week with local embroidery and screenprinting shops, still sorting out the hex material.
    Puff paint on spandex is looking good, if the deposition can be more tightly controlled.
     
  22. WandererTJ

    WandererTJ 405th Regiment Officer

    After looking into Spiderman Builds trying to researched raised textures, I read that Puff Paint tends to get brittle after a while, where as fusing the the silicon or latex (I can't remember) to the spandex had a much longer life.

    Just something to consider.
     
  23. Sabre15

    Sabre15 New Member

    Great job so far! Can't wait for the end result!
     
  24. death1ink

    death1ink

    oh baby! those look so amazing!
     
  25. Zero 071

    Zero 071 405th Regiment Officer

    will you release the 3d models for others?
     

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