:confused I think you mean 3 spartan II's, because you mentioned 3 spartan's instead of 2, and because of Kelly, Fred and Linda being spartan II's :confused
REACH: wheres Jun?
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:confused I think you mean 3 spartan II's, because you mentioned 3 spartan's instead of 2, and because of Kelly, Fred and Linda being spartan II's :confused
Trooper114
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where did you see it?
Purrie
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Just to let you guys know they've announced a sequel to Ghost's of Onyx, so perhaps everyones questions will be answered then 
AND just fyi- Karen Traviss has announced novels based after Halo 3:
http://www.karentraviss.com/index.htm
AND just fyi- Karen Traviss has announced novels based after Halo 3:
http://www.karentraviss.com/index.htm
PhantomSG13
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I think we can all agree that there shouldn't be any Spartan III's at Reach because if memory serves correctly almost all of the III's got wiped out in an assault on a Covenant factory. And it's been years so a little hazy, but if memory serves correctly Kurt was in the process of training the Spartan IV's (Or second generation III's if you will) When Halsey came to Onyx, so that means that if only a hand full of original III's survived and they were all on Onyx with Kurt then there is no way that they could be at Reach. I haven't played Reach at all yet so I know very little in game info, only what I've read in the books to date.
Purrie
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I believe Noble Team was just a spec-ops group of IIIs, probably the original test subjects of the toned-down enhancements. And there were more than just that brigade of SIII's that were wiped out, I think they got through 4, or were on the 4th when Onyx got attacked. But Noble was a squad of III's, and as someone said the only Spartan II was Jorge
Dylan Reach
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and what makes you say that?
Dylan Reach
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what makes you say that?
Trooper114
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Have Onyx in my hands and it does say that it is a new breed of III's but they are not labeled IV's. Its just a second wave of Spartan IIIs. It is still the Spartan III project. The reason why it went from Spartan II to III was because they were able to learn how to make them cheaply and more effiecent. As for Spartans on Reach. The planet got glassed. And in the ending that ship in the background has to have been at least 50 years later, because the planet need to start recovering. The II's are extremely endangered, from what i know John-117 is the only one left after the war, except for Kelly, i think, she's alive at the end of Onyx. The III's are currently the dominant Spartan types, for now, till the UNSC finds a way to make the project better, that is if it can be bettered.
Dylan, what do you mean by "what makes you say that?" The part about Jorge? He is a II, for one thing he is to old to be a III, about 30 years of experience under his belt, plus he was in the same program as (Master Chief) John-117.
Dylan, what do you mean by "what makes you say that?" The part about Jorge? He is a II, for one thing he is to old to be a III, about 30 years of experience under his belt, plus he was in the same program as (Master Chief) John-117.
Templar 320
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Just to reiterate again, according to the Developer Commentary included with the Halo: Reach Legendary Edition, Jun is still alive. From the mouths of the designers themselves.
Trooper114
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I didn't see him die, so he is off somewhere else with Halsey or with another Spartan, as for any others on Reach, none.
Spartan137
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Judging by what happens in First Strike, I'd say he's probably dead.
mikeyelderscrll
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As I have tried to explain this before, Jun and Hasely went to CASTLE, the 3 or so mile under ground base can take a 80 megaton nuke, I do not think that they would be killed from glassing.
I speculate that they were recovered after Reach was terraformed... You can see Noble 6's helmet in the ground in grass and flowers... terraformed.
I speculate that they were recovered after Reach was terraformed... You can see Noble 6's helmet in the ground in grass and flowers... terraformed.
Templar 320
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One last time. According to the Developer Commentary included with the Halo: Reach Legendary Edition, Jun is still alive.
playdohlord
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And I have tried to explain this before
the glassing effect might be superficial, but the air would be superheated inside the CASTLE base, more than likely killing anyone inside, and if that didnt happen, overpressure from the plasma rushing into the base would kill anyone, much like the VALKYRIE plan to kill hitler (overpressure from the bomb exploding in the bunker)
but, CASTLE didnt get glassed, Menachite Mountain was mined by the Covenant
Agreed, it stuns me how many still do not read threads, they read the title, think they know all about the thread by reading the last page, and then post a theory that has already been proposed...sigh "slaps forehead"
I argue that... She can leave certain strings to do certain tasks but thats basically like a computer running 2 or more programs, and the copying you're talking about she isn't able to do until she analyzes a covenant AI that has upgrades apparently, WELL after reach. what is it like 3 weeks after?
oh and playdohlord im pretty sure, or id at least guess that a base that can survive an 80 megaton nuke has certain pressurization and heating countermeasures. Cause for one a nuke that size would definetely create ALOT of heat an ALOT of pressure. but i do respect that whole connection mind you
OptimusWang
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Human AI's have always been able to spin off a portion of themselves (The Onyx AI does it when he sends the message to Kurt in Ghosts of Onyx). What you're getting confused is this ability to spin off a portion of themselves and the Covenant ability to duplicate themselves - they're not the same thing.
ok i can see the difference, but to make 2 seperate entities? Because I'd (and i think tafumi) figure that it'd be a duplication not just a spinoff, im not arguing that its not possible but i just dont see why there would be a need for a hologram or maybe even a consciousness for a spinooff.... when did this go from jun to AI's? (rhetorical XD)
playdohlord
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Aye, thank you, but the whole notion that CASTLE base got glassed is hookum, Menachite mountain, which houses CASTLE base, was one of the few areas of reach that wasnt glassed, the covenant mined the mountain for the crystal that doctor halsey and her spartans found.
yeah, I read that but I was more to the whole argument of it getting destroyed XP.
as for me im sure jun is still alive as he would have went with halsey at least up to castle base if not further, but then he might of stayed on reach too, I dont think he knew his whole sqaud was about to be wiped out so he probably stayed to regroup
as for me im sure jun is still alive as he would have went with halsey at least up to castle base if not further, but then he might of stayed on reach too, I dont think he knew his whole sqaud was about to be wiped out so he probably stayed to regroup
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