2008 presidential elections
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Ron Paul. He's the only guy to come along in pretty much forever with an understanding of economics and/or Constitutional law. 
daystar558
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id vote whichever candidate has borrowed the least amount of money from lobbyists and special intrest groups........
abandonship
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good point. it may also be because most americans are idiots. hell, even i can barely stand us. hahaoptimusaint said:
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PillowFire
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don't want Hillary, she is too far to the left....hmm...seems tough...
can I vote for president Bush? FOUR MORE YEARS
lol I am joking.
can I vote for president Bush? FOUR MORE YEARS
lol I am joking.
abandonship said:
I don't want too sound mean or anything but
1st. Most of the people that want an abortion are raped (so they have no say weather or not they have sex)
2nd. Free health care ROCKS look at sweden, they have free health care, which means they can go to any doctor (exept private, i think >.<) and have a check-up too sugery and the government will pay (im pretty sure, but not quite on all the details)
3rd. Gay people have done a lot for society, they have great fashion scence, they are great in theater.... hell most greeks were gay look how they turned out. Besides there not hurting anyone, so what if they can't reproduce the world is already over-populated! And when have they ever made america look bad?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pinkassassin @ Nov 5 2007, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1st. Most of the people that want an abortion are raped (so they have no say weather or not they have sex)
2nd. Free health care ROCKS look at sweden, they have free health care, which means they can go to any doctor (exept private, i think >.<) and have a check-up too sugery and the government will pay (im pretty sure, but not quite on all the details)
3rd. Gay people have done a lot for society, they have great fashion scence, they are great in theater.... hell most greeks were gay look how they turned out. Besides there not hurting anyone, so what if they can't reproduce the world is already over-populated! And when have they ever made america look bad?
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1st. While I agree that in that case they had no choice, I have to disagree with your conclusion on two counts: First, where did you get that most people are raped as opposed to just a few? Second, it makes no difference to me if you were raped or not, the product is a human being. Even if you disagree with me that an unborn child is a human, think of what people say whenever a young child dies. "He had such great potential!" So do the unborn.
2nd. Rock or not, it's socialist. And it's not actually free. Where does the government get it's money? Taxpayers. Who pays the most taxes? The people with the most money, who also can afford their own, far higher quality, healthcare. So the government steals from everyone and gives back to a few. Also: People from Canada will come to the U.S. for healthcare, because the doctors in canada suck. Why? The government can't afford to pay them good prices. Socialized healthcare does nothing but sound nice and decrease quality of life.
3rd. I won't argue that gay people are people, which is basically what your first sentence says. Let's see how the greeks turned out... They turned all imperialistic and their society fell apart when the Romans came around. Not that there's necessarily any link there, just answering your question. They may not hurt anyone but themselves directly, but as culture accepts homosexuality, more people will be gay, and gay people are at huge risk for STDs. And they make America look bad to anyone who disagrees with being gay.
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2nd. Free health care ROCKS look at sweden, they have free health care, which means they can go to any doctor (exept private, i think >.<) and have a check-up too sugery and the government will pay (im pretty sure, but not quite on all the details)
3rd. Gay people have done a lot for society, they have great fashion scence, they are great in theater.... hell most greeks were gay look how they turned out. Besides there not hurting anyone, so what if they can't reproduce the world is already over-populated! And when have they ever made america look bad?
</div>1st. While I agree that in that case they had no choice, I have to disagree with your conclusion on two counts: First, where did you get that most people are raped as opposed to just a few? Second, it makes no difference to me if you were raped or not, the product is a human being. Even if you disagree with me that an unborn child is a human, think of what people say whenever a young child dies. "He had such great potential!" So do the unborn.
2nd. Rock or not, it's socialist. And it's not actually free. Where does the government get it's money? Taxpayers. Who pays the most taxes? The people with the most money, who also can afford their own, far higher quality, healthcare. So the government steals from everyone and gives back to a few. Also: People from Canada will come to the U.S. for healthcare, because the doctors in canada suck. Why? The government can't afford to pay them good prices. Socialized healthcare does nothing but sound nice and decrease quality of life.
3rd. I won't argue that gay people are people, which is basically what your first sentence says. Let's see how the greeks turned out... They turned all imperialistic and their society fell apart when the Romans came around. Not that there's necessarily any link there, just answering your question. They may not hurt anyone but themselves directly, but as culture accepts homosexuality, more people will be gay, and gay people are at huge risk for STDs. And they make America look bad to anyone who disagrees with being gay.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pinkassassin @ Nov 5 2007, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't want too sound mean or anything but
1st. Most of the people that want an abortion are raped (so they have no say weather or not they have sex)
2nd. Free health care ROCKS look at sweden, they have free health care, which means they can go to any doctor (exept private, i think >.<) and have a check-up too sugery and the government will pay (im pretty sure, but not quite on all the details)
3rd. Gay people have done a lot for society, they have great fashion scence, they are great in theater.... hell most greeks were gay look how they turned out. Besides there not hurting anyone, so what if they can't reproduce the world is already over-populated! And when have they ever made america look bad?
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You do realize that most universal health-care plans out there SUCK, right? There are a few countries with pretty solid universal health-care plans (BTW, universal health-care = SKY HIGH taxes), but most countries can't utilize it very well because the government is unable to provide the necessary medical care and/or too many people exploit the program (people demanding help for the flu in emergency wards, etc.). State-funded hospitals in our northern states are actually starting to become overwhelmed with Canadians rushing over the border to receive emergency medical care not available in Canada.
Honestly, do you have ANY idea what you're talking about? From what I could tell, you're just another teenager that's been persuaded by the liberal controlled media (you* can try to say otherwise if you want, but the fact of the matter still remains that the majority of journalists in this country are liberals)** that all Republicans (and conservatives, for that matter) are bad. Do you honestly believe that Hillary or Obama will really be able to "save" our country? Do you really believe that universal health-care and increased welfare funding will magically bring down taxes,*** or are you just another mindless sheep that automatically labels the Democrats as "good" and the Republicans as "bad?"
* - By "you," I was referring to everyone, not specifically you.
** - I don't have anything against liberals. In fact, I support neither the people on the far right nor the people on the far left. As far as I'm concerned, far right = fascism and far left = country full of lazy assholes that will eventually ruin our economy. Unfortunately, the people behind the media are on the far left, so yeah . . . **** them.
*** - I really don't care about taxes as much as I care about my constitutional rights. I don't care which political party gets put in charge as long as I get my 2nd, 4th and 6th Amendment rights back.
PS: I'll be voting for Ron Paul in November of '08.
1st. Most of the people that want an abortion are raped (so they have no say weather or not they have sex)
2nd. Free health care ROCKS look at sweden, they have free health care, which means they can go to any doctor (exept private, i think >.<) and have a check-up too sugery and the government will pay (im pretty sure, but not quite on all the details)
3rd. Gay people have done a lot for society, they have great fashion scence, they are great in theater.... hell most greeks were gay look how they turned out. Besides there not hurting anyone, so what if they can't reproduce the world is already over-populated! And when have they ever made america look bad?
</div>You do realize that most universal health-care plans out there SUCK, right? There are a few countries with pretty solid universal health-care plans (BTW, universal health-care = SKY HIGH taxes), but most countries can't utilize it very well because the government is unable to provide the necessary medical care and/or too many people exploit the program (people demanding help for the flu in emergency wards, etc.). State-funded hospitals in our northern states are actually starting to become overwhelmed with Canadians rushing over the border to receive emergency medical care not available in Canada.
Honestly, do you have ANY idea what you're talking about? From what I could tell, you're just another teenager that's been persuaded by the liberal controlled media (you* can try to say otherwise if you want, but the fact of the matter still remains that the majority of journalists in this country are liberals)** that all Republicans (and conservatives, for that matter) are bad. Do you honestly believe that Hillary or Obama will really be able to "save" our country? Do you really believe that universal health-care and increased welfare funding will magically bring down taxes,*** or are you just another mindless sheep that automatically labels the Democrats as "good" and the Republicans as "bad?"
* - By "you," I was referring to everyone, not specifically you.
** - I don't have anything against liberals. In fact, I support neither the people on the far right nor the people on the far left. As far as I'm concerned, far right = fascism and far left = country full of lazy assholes that will eventually ruin our economy. Unfortunately, the people behind the media are on the far left, so yeah . . . **** them.
*** - I really don't care about taxes as much as I care about my constitutional rights. I don't care which political party gets put in charge as long as I get my 2nd, 4th and 6th Amendment rights back.
PS: I'll be voting for Ron Paul in November of '08.
As far as I'm concerned, if you can't trust them as a regular person to act decent and make moral decisions, you can't trust them to run your country. I'm NOT applying this to any one party. If there is someone in any party that can do this, I support them. So long as their political view do not contradict my faith.
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Yeah, sure. Although the Greeks didn't start off supporting homosexuality, and considering how their society collapsed on itself, yeah, they did pretty well. Just like Sodom and Gomorah and Rome, how so far, all those societies who started off as some of the greatest empires in the world, once they devoted their lives to sexual pleasure, their civilizations just collapsed. Really gives a great meaning to 'those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it'. With the U.S. following suit. Enjoy your life.pinkassassin said:3rd. Gay people have done a lot for society, they have great fashion scence, they are great in theater.... hell most greeks were gay look how they turned out. Besides there not hurting anyone, so what if they can't reproduce the world is already over-populated! And when have they ever made america look bad?
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NuggetWarmer
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Ron Paul, FTW!
I swear, if Hilary Clinton wins I WILL leave the country. Not being sexist, just being smart. She's one of the main reasons why Mr. Clinton almost got impeached. All she wants is the publicity and to have power over something rather than her hubby.
I swear, if Hilary Clinton wins I WILL leave the country. Not being sexist, just being smart. She's one of the main reasons why Mr. Clinton almost got impeached. All she wants is the publicity and to have power over something rather than her hubby.
abandonship
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BTW by saying "they cant reproduce" i was stating that they are not natural and thus, disgusting in my mind
Sean Bradley
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I officially hate this topic.
Nothings more pointless than arguing politics..
enjoy.
Nothings more pointless than arguing politics..
enjoy.
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Sean Bradley said:
Ditto
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flying squirl
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i think bush should be in again. we need more comidy in the global political system. “This allegations are completley false, i know who these alligators are and will bring them justice” common you have to admit he's hillarious!!!!
by the way this topic is compleatly pointless
by the way this topic is compleatly pointless
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Sean Bradley said:
youre right. i shouldnt have gotten involved. i know better.
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