thinking about starting over


ODST Emory

Jr Member
It looks okay from that angle. Can you send multiple angles? Also, what was the problem? Sizing? Forming? Or does it have something to do with the overall shape? Some more pics would be great!
 

indigoD0g

Member
People like barge contact cement, I’ve only use lepage brand. most heavy duty contact cements will do fine.
Utility knives for big cuts, exacto knives for small precise ones. Rotary tools are also really handy if you can get one for cleaning up jagged cuts. youll either need to stock up on blades or use a sharpener to prolong the life of one. 400g Sandpaper will work to sharpen blades as well.
i Use plasti dip to seal my foam, it stays fairly flexible that way. You can use mod podge or latex as well. depends on preferences and what finish you want.
black is My fav base color, grey works too.
I second the Barge contact cement. It has given me an incredible finish as opposed to hot glue and although you have to wait for it to fully dry, you can have perfect seams and you don't have to worry about glue burns.
 

Mechace13

Jr Member
It looks okay from that angle. Can you send multiple angles? Also, what was the problem? Sizing? Forming? Or does it have something to do with the overall shape? Some more pics would be great!
size i'm trying a different templat (link below) and the video i can clearly see his cuting at an angle but i can't tell what angle i should cut and the building part is too fast for me
 

Mechace13

Jr Member
If you need to start over realize it is not defeat, it is progress.
thanks my roommate told me that too
know anyone who uses this i could use a little help
 

Fallen

Active Member
Member DIN
S922
I wouldn't stress too much about getting the exact angle, but rather if the direction of the angle should be inward or outward from the edge and make your best estimation as to how much.

Even if the bevel isn't quite accurate, foam gives or you can cut off some more of the edge for an under bevel. For over beveling on the inside of the piece you can not push the whole of the angles together and fill in the gap with hot glue, foam clay, or whatever to take up that space.

If you really want to get as close as possible to the exact angle, you'll likely need Armorsmith(US$35). More than happy to show you how to do that if you want.

You got this! Just keep building and remember that even "mistakes" are just more practice. As long as you're having fun and learning something new you'll get better with every build/attempt.
 
Last edited:

Mechace13

Jr Member
mark 3 of my helmet
 

Attachments

  • 62F8D1B5-9A84-45FF-8F1D-F0D3AD3C712F.jpeg
    62F8D1B5-9A84-45FF-8F1D-F0D3AD3C712F.jpeg
    1.6 MB · Views: 15

Mechace13

Jr Member
I wouldn't stress too much about getting the exact angle, but rather if the direction of the angle should be inward or outward from the edge and make your best estimation as to how much.

Even if the bevel isn't quite accurate, foam gives or you can cut off some more of the edge for an under bevel. For over beveling on the inside of the piece you can not push the whole of the angles together and fill in the gap with hot glue, foam clay, or whatever to take up that space.

If you really want to get as close as possible to the exact angle, you'll likely need Armorsmith(US$35). More than happy to show you how to do that if you want.

You got this! Just keep building and remember that even "mistakes" are just more practice. As long as you're having fun and learning something new you'll get better with every build/attempt.
what is $35 anywhy
 

Mechace13

Jr Member
I wouldn't stress too much about getting the exact angle, but rather if the direction of the angle should be inward or outward from the edge and make your best estimation as to how much.

Even if the bevel isn't quite accurate, foam gives or you can cut off some more of the edge for an under bevel. For over beveling on the inside of the piece you can not push the whole of the angles together and fill in the gap with hot glue, foam clay, or whatever to take up that space.

If you really want to get as close as possible to the exact angle, you'll likely need Armorsmith(US$35). More than happy to show you how to do that if you want.

You got this! Just keep building and remember that even "mistakes" are just more practice. As long as you're having fun and learning something new you'll get better with every build/attempt.
the armorsmith thing what is it
 

Fallen

Active Member
Member DIN
S922
Armorsmith is another software option for viewing, editing, and printing pep files and/or templates. As mentioned it costs US$35, but is a fantastic alternative or complimentary tool to pepakura. Some benefits to it include having a customizable avatar that you can set to your measurements and scale parts to your avatar. One of my favorite features is the non-uniform scale feature since we're not all built with the same proportions.

Related to your asking about angles, in the pattern layout page there's an option to show the edge angles. It's not 100% perfect, but it gets you pretty close.

edge_ids.jpg

Worth noting, if I'm recalling correctly (please someone correct me if I'm wrong on this) it takes the full angle between the parts and divides it in half. So, for example, the 45° angles on that hexagon would have a 45° on the little piece to create depth if you were making this out of paper. Since foam creates depth just by thickness a straight down cut would make more sense than trying to cut a 45° on this side and a 45° on a connecting "ring" piece.
 

TurboCharizard

Division PR, RXO and BCO
Division Staff
405th Regiment Officer
Member DIN
S068
Worth noting, if I'm recalling correctly (please someone correct me if I'm wrong on this) it takes the full angle between the parts and divides it in half. So, for example, the 45° angles on that hexagon would have a 45° on the little piece to create depth if you were making this out of paper. Since foam creates depth just by thickness a straight down cut would make more sense than trying to cut a 45° on this side and a 45° on a connecting "ring" piece.
Right you are! These angles also round fairly accurately but sometimes when you're working with parts that need precision you have to be a little more careful and build a mockup first.
 

Mechace13

Jr Member
i really want to know if something i'm planing on doing to my helmet is cheating covering where the lines are with the add on armor form reach and saying that the errors are battle damage to my friends
 

PerniciousDuke

RCO & BCO
405th Regiment Officer
Member DIN
S128
i really want to know if something i'm planing on doing to my helmet is cheating covering where the lines are with the add on armor form reach and saying that the errors are battle damage to my friends
Battle damage is certainly a well used reasoning behind crafting mistakes, but you still want to fix as many mistakes as you can while building if you have the opportunity.
 

Mechace13

Jr Member
ok mk 3 odst helmet so far thoughts any areas that i should care about ps i'm using my ipod camera i found areas that could use more work so i'm going to use hot glue to fix them
397DF611-EE8F-46BC-9461-869EB50E1B47.jpeg
 

Attachments

  • C8CBF066-74DB-40B5-98AA-54171C8FD796.jpeg
    C8CBF066-74DB-40B5-98AA-54171C8FD796.jpeg
    1.2 MB · Views: 15
  • FDDFFE53-C6B3-47DC-B52F-40821D1E5C5D.jpeg
    FDDFFE53-C6B3-47DC-B52F-40821D1E5C5D.jpeg
    1.2 MB · Views: 17
  • 218EB731-A647-47CE-9E7F-07E3C3980A84.jpeg
    218EB731-A647-47CE-9E7F-07E3C3980A84.jpeg
    728.8 KB · Views: 16
  • 48E28AB5-F355-46F7-873A-5A2292CD6124.jpeg
    48E28AB5-F355-46F7-873A-5A2292CD6124.jpeg
    643.1 KB · Views: 15
Last edited:

TurboCharizard

Division PR, RXO and BCO
Division Staff
405th Regiment Officer
Member DIN
S068
ok mk 3 odst helmet so far thoughts any areas that i should care about ps i'm using my ipod camera i found areas that could use more work so i'm going to use hot glue to fix them View attachment 307645
They look fine. Overall you're going to want to focus more on the joins at the edges of your pieces and at the outward facing joining surfaces (there's a few points that pucker and pull the foam inward). Just be sure to take your time and be firm but gentle when pulling foam into place for assembly. Pre-forming either by rolling or by heating and forming the foam into a curved surface will greatly help on those arcs.
 

Your message may be considered spam for the following reasons:

  1. Your new thread title is very short, and likely is unhelpful.
  2. Your reply is very short and likely does not add anything to the thread.
  3. Your reply is very long and likely does not add anything to the thread.
  4. It is very likely that it does not need any further discussion and thus bumping it serves no purpose.
  5. Your message is mostly quotes or spoilers.
  6. Your reply has occurred very quickly after a previous reply and likely does not add anything to the thread.
  7. This thread is locked.
Top